Shield v CCP

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Got stupid, and bought both. I went to the range, today, and fired 50 rounds from each. Both guns were brand new. I had only cleaned them prior to the trip. There were no problems, of any kind, with feeding, ejecting, etc. Ammo was Remington UMC.

I am recently back into shooting, after a 30 year lapse. Just received my Carry Permit in the mail, today.

The Shield was impressive, though the CCP shot (approx.) 1" smaller groups(at 10 yards.) A lot of the difference, to me, seemed to be in the grip and trigger guard on the CCP. The CCP grip is contoured for the fingers, has a great pattern for grippiness. The trigger guard is flat, with an extension that allows the L forefinger to prevent muzzle flip. This gun also has the Softcoil technology that is supposed to soften recoil. The barrel is fixed and .4" longer than the Shield. The trigger is 4.5 lbs, smooth and crisp.

The biggest concern with the CCP is that the slide did not lock open, after the last round. This can be important. The Shield slide locked back every time.

So, how did the Shield do so well? I'm not sure, but given the differences, I'm impressed enough that I'm keeping them both. The Shield is narrower, and seems to have more readily available mods and holsters, which I like. Talon grips and breaking in the trigger should get groups like the CCP.

What's that saying ..... How many guns do you need? Just one more.
 
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I have a Shield 9 nts and love it. My wife got a CCP as soon as they were available. It is a nice shooting pistol. She wanted something smaller to carry so she got a Sig P938 but we both still enjoy shooting the CCP at the range.
 
Got stupid, and bought both. I went to the range, today, and fired 50 rounds from each. Both guns were brand new. I had only cleaned them prior to the trip. There were no problems, of any kind, with feeding, ejecting, etc. Ammo was Remington UMC.

I am recently back into shooting, after a 30 year lapse. Just received my Carry Permit in the mail, today.

The Shield was impressive, though the CCP shot (approx.) 1" smaller groups(at 10 yards.) A lot of the difference, to me, seemed to be in the grip and trigger guard on the CCP. The CCP grip is contoured for the fingers, has a great pattern for grippiness. The trigger guard is flat, with an extension that allows the L forefinger to prevent muzzle flip. This gun also has the Softcoil technology that is supposed to soften recoil. The barrel is fixed and .4" longer than the Shield. The trigger is 4.5 lbs, smooth and crisp.

The biggest concern with the CCP is that the slide did not lock open, after the last round. This can be important. The Shield slide locked back every time.

So, how did the Shield do so well? I'm not sure, but given the differences, I'm impressed enough that I'm keeping them both. The Shield is narrower, and seems to have more readily available mods and holsters, which I like. Talon grips and breaking in the trigger should get groups like the CCP.

What's that saying ..... How many guns do you need? Just one more.
Congratulations on your choices. I think you did well.
I must admit the CPC from Walther is a very impressive hand gun. I rented one at the local range and I like the soft feel it exhibits when being shot.
I have the Shield and will not part with it! It may be time to consider, "Another New Gun"!

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The biggest concern with the CCP is that the slide did not lock open, after the last round. This can be important. The Shield slide locked back every time.

That could be magazine or ammo related. What ammo were you using? Maybe it is a bit weak for the Walther.
 
The biggest concern with the CCP is that the slide did not lock open, after the last round. This can be important. The Shield slide locked back every time.

I had the same issue at first. My thumb was hitting it somehow. Solved after adjusting my grip. Try shooting it left handed and see if it still happens.
 
Re the CCP trigger.



That's interesting. Many reviewers complain that it is gritty and inconsistent. Maybe Walther have sorted the issue.

yep, sounds like an add for the CCP, which some people had renamed Walther's POC :) C is standing for S
 
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Brand new, dry firing, the trigger felt a little gritty. But, after some dry firing, I took it to the range ... and it felt great. And, the grittiness is in the take up. Much of that disappeared after some dry firing. Plus, when shooting, I only release to the reset. That is where it shines. Double taps, even four shots can be placed really accurately, using all the guns features.
 
Haven't gotten back to the range, yet. But, I'll be following up with diff ammo, etc., to see if the problem of not locking is operator error. Of course, I hold all guns with the same type grip. None of the other guns have failed to lock back. We'll see.
 
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