I know this has been here many times before but I cannot find an answer for this particular question. I am selling a handgun to a member in a neighboring state. The buyer stated his ffl has accepted guns mailed to him by the sellers with only a copy of their drivers license enclosed. I suppose he was talking about the USPS. Can't believe this is legal. Please advise. Thanks
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SuperMan
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One can send long guns but not handguns through USPS if they are shhipped to a dealer...not an individual...
To ship a handgun to a FFL in another state it has to go FedEx or UPS Overnight or 2nd Day Air.
A FFL holder can ship any kind of firearm through USPS and it is MUCH less expensive.
With handguns a UPS/FedEx Overnight can be $100.00. USPS Pirority Mail $21 plus insurance... I have local dealers who charge $10-25.00 plus the cost of the postage to ship through their shop to the receiving dealer... This costs me less than half shipping it myself.
Also some dealer will NOT receive guns from non-ffl holders...but that is just a shop policy...
So yes you can ship it to the receiving dealer with just a signed copy of your DL, but not through USPS...
Bob
To ship a handgun to a FFL in another state it has to go FedEx or UPS Overnight or 2nd Day Air.
A FFL holder can ship any kind of firearm through USPS and it is MUCH less expensive.
With handguns a UPS/FedEx Overnight can be $100.00. USPS Pirority Mail $21 plus insurance... I have local dealers who charge $10-25.00 plus the cost of the postage to ship through their shop to the receiving dealer... This costs me less than half shipping it myself.
Also some dealer will NOT receive guns from non-ffl holders...but that is just a shop policy...
So yes you can ship it to the receiving dealer with just a signed copy of your DL, but not through USPS...
Bob
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Copy of drivers license and UPS or Fedex only as stated above. No US Postal. As long as the receiving FFL accepts from non licensed individuals. Some FFL holders used to refuse from private individuals which never made sense since it was perfectly legal. The biggest benefit of using a FFL to ship it for you is that if it were to get lost in transit, the ATF could get involved in finding it.
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I list guns on an auction site and ship totally through a gun shop. He logs it in his book and the receiving FFL does the same. No need to copy a driver license. Now there is a paper trail if needed. He prints a label and I walk it over to a store that UPS goes to every day at 4:30-5 pm so it's on it's way that night. It cost 40.00 for a handgun and 50.00 for a long gun plus insurance if they want it. Shipping a handgun myself would be way too expensive. The person you sell the gun to has to have the gun shop he uses send their license to the shop you ship through. Very easy after it's been done a few times. Larry
cowboy4evr
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Any of the smaller UPS stores I have been in , they have signs posted that they will not ship firearms nor ammunition . I have always been told that to ship FEDEX or UPS , you have to go to the main terminal . My LGS will not ship , PERIOD ! Regards, Paul
Yes this question has been asked here many times before and
beaten to death. You can't find an answer because what these
questions get are opinions that reflect the various attitudes of
those that reply. I will just say this; what you are thinking
about doing has and will continue to happen countless times
with apparently zero consequences. When you ship by priority
mail the postal clerks ask the questions they consider
pertinent. Answer them. Do what you feel comfortable with
and think long and hard about the questions you ask on here.
I still think it's better to ship through a FFL rather than doing it yourself.
Just accept that the FFL fee is the cost of doing business,and you're willing to absorb it. So many guys act like that's a deal breaker and the end of the world to eat a few dollars. It shouldn't be.
Your FFL will verify that it's going to a legit FFL recipient and address. That's added protection for you.
In my locale, my FFL will add a charge for a gun sent in by an individual. He would much prefer that guns are sent by a FFL, and I agree with him. Occasionally, he would receive a gun with no idea who sent it and no idea of who it was intended for. He then had a hot potato that he couldn't properly log in,and had to wait for the buyer to show up and get it all straightened out.
Just because it's been done by others at the Post Office, is no reason to violate the law.
Just accept that the FFL fee is the cost of doing business,and you're willing to absorb it. So many guys act like that's a deal breaker and the end of the world to eat a few dollars. It shouldn't be.
Your FFL will verify that it's going to a legit FFL recipient and address. That's added protection for you.
In my locale, my FFL will add a charge for a gun sent in by an individual. He would much prefer that guns are sent by a FFL, and I agree with him. Occasionally, he would receive a gun with no idea who sent it and no idea of who it was intended for. He then had a hot potato that he couldn't properly log in,and had to wait for the buyer to show up and get it all straightened out.
Just because it's been done by others at the Post Office, is no reason to violate the law.
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Doug M.
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The UPS stores and other similar contractors either have contract provisions prohibiting doing such transfers or claim to. It's a pain. The local UPS facility has limited public hours, but they have been generally good to me.
If there is a problem with any kind of shipment, going through a UPS store rather than UPS itself, adds a layer of do-do to work through. Not unlike using a booking service for a rental car vs booking directly.
The answer has been posted in post #2
Why it has to go on and on makes no sense.??
The OP is not asking about a rifle!
No, he can not ship via USPS an FFL CAN
section 7 and 8
Firearms - Frequently Asked Questions - Unlicensed Persons | Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives
Good grief
Why it has to go on and on makes no sense.??
The OP is not asking about a rifle!
No, he can not ship via USPS an FFL CAN
section 7 and 8
Firearms - Frequently Asked Questions - Unlicensed Persons | Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives
Good grief
LVSteve
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It's often cheaper shipping properly through a FFL than it is doing the next day air thing with FedEx or UPS. The FFL can use the mail at about $20 a package or even less. Next day air is usually $70 or more.
My answer was based on the fact that I am a Class 07 and Class 01 FFL. Why take a chance on getting your tail in sling over trying to save a few measly bucks by slipping it through the USPS?
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My FFL dealer received a handgun for me that was shipped from a non FFL carrying individual. He could not believe that the individual did not enclose a copy of his driver's license, just a bill of sale. He told me to be sure to have anyone that was not a FFL seller to be sure and enclose a copy of their driver's license in any further dealing I may have.
As previously stated, you, as a non FFL holder can't ship a handgun via USPS.
If you don't have a FFL holder that will ship a handgun for you, then you need to ship via UPS or FedEx.
If you don't have a FFL holder or a local gun shop that's willing to ship the handgun for a reasonable price, you still have another option. Take a peek at ShipMyGun.com, as they will be less expensive than UPS or FedEx. You will need to put a photo-copy of your driver's license with the handgun.
If you don't have a FFL holder that will ship a handgun for you, then you need to ship via UPS or FedEx.
If you don't have a FFL holder or a local gun shop that's willing to ship the handgun for a reasonable price, you still have another option. Take a peek at ShipMyGun.com, as they will be less expensive than UPS or FedEx. You will need to put a photo-copy of your driver's license with the handgun.
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C&R shipping
When discussing shipping through an FFL, are C&R holder's afforded the same shipping privileges as FFL holders? Can C&R holders ship qualifying handguns to other C&R holders, (and to FFL holders) using the USPS priority?
Thank you for your time - stay well
When discussing shipping through an FFL, are C&R holder's afforded the same shipping privileges as FFL holders? Can C&R holders ship qualifying handguns to other C&R holders, (and to FFL holders) using the USPS priority?
Thank you for your time - stay well
CAJUNLAWYER
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Has nyone ever used this service??
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I tried unsuccessfully to use this one time but could not get the web site to work. Seems to be a good solution
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I tried unsuccessfully to use this one time but could not get the web site to work. Seems to be a good solution
rkittine
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If your state requires a Firearms ID card or a Pistol Permit, a copy of that should go along with the copy of your Drivers License. Then the receiving FFL can send you a receipt that you can use to have it removed from your permit. NOT ALL STATES allow this though. Surprisingly New York does on the incoming end. With regard to UPS and FedEx, I have been able to wave down a truck and fill out the required paperwork for both firearms shipments and excess insurance levels that the UPS store will not accept. BUT, as long as I use my FedEx or UPS account and set up the shipping and pre-pay, I have dropped off both types of shipments at UPS stores, without incident.
Bob
Bob
Gary, I was going to but found a better rate on UPS. They were doing 40% off shipping.
UPS requires Next Day Air, but I used Next Day Air Saver. The difference is the time of delivery. Next Day Air Saver is by 8pm, if I recall. This satisfies their requirement.
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