SHOCKWAVE SHOTGUNs

[rwsmith]

No kidding, but isn't that the whole point of the thing?

Well, I like the mechanism and the 14.375" barrel, but the grip is a dealbreaker for me. I'm not sure what the legalities are but the same shotgun with a stock would be something I would like. It seems like if a short barreled shotgun with a birdshead stock is legal I don't know why the same with a stock wouldn't be. But then guns laws and common sense are diametrically opposed.

 

[GUNMAN40]

People say meh. But in an RV or small spaces such as a truck it is awesome.

Very accurate. I patterned mine out to 25 yards and have shot slugs through it.

It is my RV and camping gun.

Easy to shoot with training





Buy with confidence.

Probably sell a few things and get an Aftershock for some " Mad Max" one- handed-while-driving protection.

 

[hammondo]

People say meh. But in an RV or small spaces such as a truck it is awesome.

Very accurate. I patterned mine out to 25 yards and have shot slugs through it.

It is my RV and camping gun.

Easy to shoot with training





Buy with confidence.

I do love mine yeppers on CQB utility. I have a shallow front yard would provide much efficacy in a multi assailant scenario and of course I make those one time only (fortunately) screwups with muscle memory yes I held the stock up to my cheek as if it extended to my shoulder oopsie. Same as with my first semi-auto pistol the web between my thumb and forefinger was above the tam? at the back under the slide and....you know what happens next I have some skin between the slide and the pistol after firing that round. Live and (hopefully) learn

 

[tires2burn]

Saw a video on you tube and the fore-end didn't have a strap on it , so when he pulled the trigger the barrel came up and slapped him square in the face. Hard lesson.

 

[a5werkes]

Perfect platform to SBS, should you decide to go that route..

Well as long as we are dragging them out.
I did these in .410 and 20 gauge.

Not a fan of the birds beak style grip.

 

[gunbarrel]

This is for the benefit of the Forum members that missed the link I providex on Page 3 to the article on the current issue of the American Rifleman:

"First, a little legal background. The Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives (ATF), defines a shotgun as "a weapon ... intended to be fired from the shoulder." To retain the federal classification of "shotgun," such firearms must have a barrel at least 18" in length. At that point, the stock can be replaced with a pistol grip to help shave things down, provided the overall length is not less than 26". The result is still quite sizeable, making it tough to wield in confined spaces. If you want a shorter barrel while still having a shoulder stock, then there is the ATF-regulated "short-barreled shotgun" defined by the National Firearms Act of 1934 (NFA), which is all shotguns having a shoulder stock and a barrel length shorter than 18". What if there is no shoulder stock? Well, the NFA has a category called Any Other Weapon (AOW), defined as "any weapon or device capable of being concealed on the person," excluding pistols and revolvers. The ATF further defines this as any firearm measuring less than 26" in length. So, what if you have a shotshell-firing gun that measures more than 26" long but isn't designed to be fired from the shoulder? Well, the ATF doesn't have an NFA category that captures that configuration. Hence the "non-NFA firearm." As long as the gun remains at a length greater than 26", you have one heck of an arm with which to defend confined spaces such as tents and vehicles (provided state or local laws don't state otherwise) without the associated NFA paperwork."

 

[rwsmith]

Well as long as we are dragging them out.
I did these in .410 and 20 gauge.

Not a fan of the birds beak style grip.

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Now you are talking. But I see that these are Class III weapons. Does the law read that the Shockwave is some kind of pistol and exempt from the classification? If it does that only reinforces what I've said. Gun laws and common sense are diametrically opposed. But I would much rather have a 590A1 than a Shockwave. But if I felt I needed one my budget would probably dictate getting the Shockwave, like it or not. Nah, the 500 extra bucks would be worth it.

 

[mckenney99]

This is for the benefit of the Forum members that missed the link I providex on Page 3 to the article on the current issue of the American Rifleman:

"First, a little legal background. The Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives (ATF), defines a shotgun as "a weapon ... intended to be fired from the shoulder." To retain the federal classification of "shotgun," such firearms must have a barrel at least 18" in length. At that point, the stock can be replaced with a pistol grip to help shave things down, provided the overall length is not less than 26". The result is still quite sizeable, making it tough to wield in confined spaces. If you want a shorter barrel while still having a shoulder stock, then there is the ATF-regulated "short-barreled shotgun" defined by the National Firearms Act of 1934 (NFA), which is all shotguns having a shoulder stock and a barrel length shorter than 18". What if there is no shoulder stock? Well, the NFA has a category called Any Other Weapon (AOW), defined as "any weapon or device capable of being concealed on the person," excluding pistols and revolvers. The ATF further defines this as any firearm measuring less than 26" in length. So, what if you have a shotshell-firing gun that measures more than 26" long but isn't designed to be fired from the shoulder? Well, the ATF doesn't have an NFA category that captures that configuration. Hence the "non-NFA firearm." As long as the gun remains at a length greater than 26", you have one heck of an arm with which to defend confined spaces such as tents and vehicles (provided state or local laws don't state otherwise) without the associated NFA paperwork."

The fact that the "Firearm" must remain OVER 26 inches is where some folks get into trouble when they decide to replace the birdshead grip with a standard pistol grip. Suddenly, with the simple replacement of the grip they can find that their once legal "Firearm" is now shorter than 26 inches overall length and they are now in possession of an "Illegal Unregistered NFA - Any Other Weapon".
Also it is my understanding that you MAY NOT create a "Firearm" from a receiver that was previously used as a "Shotgun" no matter how you configure it. "Firearms" can only be created using manufacturer "virgin" receiver.

 

[a5werkes]

But I see that these are Class III weapons

"But I would much rather have a 590A1 than a Shockwave."

No worries for me.
I am quite familiar with the Rules. They are registered with BATFE as SBS's; $200 / each.
No Tax $ now!

The 14" 590A1.
Have it your way.

 

[SHODriver]

I jokingly call these Form 1 SBS starter kits. They're still shootable with the shockwave grip, some technique, and some practice. However, all you need is a stock and a tax stamp to make these into a very handy little shotgun.

 

[rockquarry]

I jokingly call these Form 1 SBS starter kits. They're still shootable with the shockwave grip, some technique, and some practice. However, all you need is a stock and a tax stamp to make these into a very handy little shotgun.

SBS?

 

[a5werkes]

SBS?

SBS Short Barrel Shotgun.........SBR Short Barrel Rifle

 

[rockquarry]

SBS Short Barrel Shotgun.........SBR Short Barrel Rifle

Thank you

 

[inspcalahan]

Had one for about a month and sold it. Never shot it. Problem was it couldn't sit on floor. Had to lay on floor and didn't like that. It kept sliding no matter how i set it. Have hardwood floors no carpet.

Dip it in liquid rubber - makes it tackier for the grip, would serve your need and it'd peel right off if you ever wanted to not have it or sell it.