Shockwave to SBS

[Spencerivey101]

Been thinking about spending the tax and changing over my Shockwave to a SBS. My biggest concern is that my parents live in Georgia and I currently live in Texas. I like to take my guns back home to their house when I can though because they have a large yard and my private range is still available there. But with an SBS I would have to get permission to take it with me every time since , as I understand it, I can't just change it back to a "firearm" for the trip.
So for those of you who have a SBS or have done the conversion, is it worth it? Or is the compactness of the shockwave what I should stick with?

 

[scoobysnacker]

I haven't done the conversion, but I did get the Opsol adapter, and loaded up on Challenger mini shells at Brownells. 8 in the tube, flawless feeding, recoil light enough that I can hold the gun in front of me and use the bead to sight in, and not worry about busting my nose.

Fwiw, the Aguila mini's got me interested, but the price was too steep to get into them beyond a box or 2. But Brownells has Challenger on clearance sale- I got 300 rds of target for 90 a little while back, and just ordered 300 rds of slugs for 109.99 shipped.

Look up the discount codes, I took one that gave me 10 off a 100 and free shipping.

To me, that's the better investment, along with the 15 buck Opsol.

If you HAVE to shoulder it (and understand I'm 5'7 in shoes, and 170 lbs), you might look into a brace instead. They make them for the Shockwave now.

 

[colt_saa]

I own several AOWs (Rem 870WPs) and an SBS. Just cut down this SxS a few summers ago, but then I always wanted a coach gun

I would not go NFA Title II just to have a shoulder stock.

Filing the Form 20 is not too big a deal. You fax it to them and they usually fax back in 24 hours. I just object to the concept, so if I do not absolutely need a WP shotgun, I take a full size

Just take that $200 making tax and apply it toward a second 12 Gauge Mossberg. You will have the second shotgun long before you would get the approved Form 1 back

Then you can take the full size back and forth with you

 

[daglockman]

The ATF will approve form 20's for a year at a time. Just list the reason as informal and formal shooting out of state. I have never done this and I don't know why, but apparently, you can also file for the current year, and future years head of time and the ATF will approve them.

 

[Tom K]

All of the Shockwave type short "shotguns" seem silly, when the Kel Tec KSG and KS7 bullpups are available. They're essentially the same short overall length but the Kel Tec guns can be shouldered, have an 18"+ barrel and have larger magazines.

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[daglockman]

All of the Shockwave type short "shotguns" seem silly, when the Kel Tec KSG and KS7 bullpups are available. They're essentially the same short overall length but the Kel Tec guns can be shouldered, have an 18"+ barrel and have larger magazines.

Shotguns | Innovative Quality Shotgun Manufacturer | KelTec

I have heard that there are people that get a KSG that works out of the box, but most of the time they need some work. Like all of Kel Tec's products, they have their gremlins and are more of a hobbyist's gun IMO. I am tempted by their RFB also, but it takes too much adjusting to get it to run. And god forbid you change ammo type, because you will be adjusting that piston that has 20+ settings on it for sure. I have a friend who owns one, and he finally god it dialed in. To me, a hobbyist's gun is one where you have to constantly tweak it, practice with it, keep it ridiculously clean, "fluff and buff" it, etc... My TAC13, and TAC14 will eat ANYTHING 12 gauge and you can mix and match ammo in the magazine all day, and it will not faze it, right out of the box.

 

[Octagun]

I own a KSG and although I was fortunate enough to get a reliable one right out the box I found it a little too cumbersome to clear and load and the recoil was pretty punishing with 3” shells.

Hearing all of the positive experiences about the Rem Tac13 regarding reliability and reduced recoil I decided to take the plunge and build an SBS out of one. Still breaking it in but has been making the KSG feel left out for sure. I will say however the KSG is still much shorter even with having a longer barrel.

 

[Echo40]

Why not just get a brace for it?

That way it maintains its legal status yet could possibly be shouldered if need be.

Also, I dunno if you've ever actually fired a Shockwave before, but their recoil is massively overrated. I think folks just assume that it's the same as a traditional vertical pistol grip shotgun which transfers the recoil impulse directly into the shooter's wrist, but the more horizontal Shockwave grip transfers no energy whatsoever into the wrist. In fact, with a firm grip it doesn't hurt at all to shoot, not even with 2.5" Military Grade 00 Buckshot. So yeah, don't assume that you need a stock before you've even shot one.

 

[Sistema1927]

My KS7 had to go back to the mothership for repairs, pretty much right out of the box. It is fine now, but be warned that Kel-Tec uses customers as QC checkers.

I put a brace on my Shockwave, but reverted back to the Raptor grip due to the fact that with the pistol grip you cannot manipulate the safety without removing a hand from the weapon.

 

[Octagun]

Speaking for myself I didn’t go the brace route because I knew I wanted a short shotgun that I could shoulder. The tac13 route seemed easier than chopping down a barrel. I also rarely leave FL so the NFA travel restrictions were not an issue for me. But to be honest I have 0 experience with braces. Maybe something I should look into some more.

 

[colt_saa]

A pistol brace is there to simply help you steady the pistol

A device that allows the firearm to be shouldered would be called a stock and attaching one would be manufacturing an SBS or SBR.

If you began improvising something else to shoulder the pistol, that something else could be considered a stock

If you want a stock, file the form1 and be done

 

[shocker]

On a 20 gauge shockwave, I tried out the brace and determined I like the raptor grip better.
Ill fitting stocks in general don't lead to shooting comfort with long guns shall we say.
I am impressed with 14" barrel for its patterns at short ranges but with paperwork etc. I'd just get a shotgun with an 18" barrel and call it good.

 

[dr. mordo]

I've been considering a home-defense shotgun, and after a lot of thought I'm planning on picking up a Panzer BP-12.

It offers most of the benefits of a Shockwave with none of the costs. It comes with a 5 rd mag, but 10 rd mags are available.