Shootout video in my local gunshop

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Saturday at 9am, two young thugs entered my local gunshop and
immediately started shooting. All of them would have been toast if the owners 74 year old wife hadnt pulled her J frame snubby and shot one of the bad guys. She was hit with return fire but the round glanced off a countertop and books and broke skin but didnt penetrate. The video is as follows

Gunshot Sends Robbery Suspects to Hospital, Leads to Arrests - NWAhomepage.com

One thug kept trying to shoot employees but his High point woundnt work. Both are in jail now. Thank god, no gun shop employees were hurt!!
 
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Damn, good that she opened fire and glad she's okay.

That just shows that we always have to be prepared and never get complacent!

Hope they thugs get what they deserve...
 
Good for that lady! Every clerk in gun shops in my area is armed and open carrying. These guys would have had about 6 - 8 guns pointed back at them. Haris1, are most or all of the clerks armed in shops in your area?

I heard one story about a LGS that was owned by a retired LEO and became a local hangout for cops in the area. A couple of guys decided to rob said gun store and had several clerks and customers (mostly off-duty cops) pointing guns right back at them.
 
We can all be thankful it turned out the way it did.

Did the thugs really think a gun store owner doesn't have multiple loaded guns scattered around the business? Under counter, inside the big safe, etc
 
I could not get the video to play. However, I'm familiar with a number of gun shop robberies. In each, the robbers utilized tactics that are normally not utilized in a retail robbery: they came in firing and easily overpowered the store personnel.

Just because its a gun shop, you would think that no one in his right mind would hit it but owning a gun shop does not make you a tactician. As it is well known, gun battles are mostly lost in the judgment/tactics phase as evidenced by the store personnel having access to hundreds of guns but lost anyway.
 
Those were some sketchy looking characters from the moment they ambled into the store, IMHO. I have to think the lady already had her hand on her j-frame, ready to draw if necessary, when the scumbags suddenly started pointing and shooting. Her reaction time was really good, I think, but she still got winged. Maybe if she had used cover better....

Still, I'm glad it all turned out OK and the perps were arrested. I hope both of them get a lot of time in the hoosegow.
 
Haris1, the NWA in your post, is that North West Arkansas? As in Rogers? Thank God the good guys prevail again!. Kyle
 
Kyle--This was in Springdale, just south of Rogers. But yes, Northwest Arkansas--Fayetteville/Springdale/Rogers area. I wonder if they were not locals, but rather transients passing through, because the piece said they were arrested in Fort Smith. That is about an hour south of Rogers.
 
gordon21 said:
Did the thugs really think a gun store owner doesn't have multiple loaded guns scattered around the business? Under counter, inside the big safe, etc
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Gun store owners/employees don't always win. (An old case.)

"Two Minnesota men who were arrested on the West Side [ of Chicago] with a cache of weapons, including some that allegedly had been stolen from a Minneapolis gun shop where two men were killed, were ordered held without bond Tuesday and charged with the murders."

"The men are accused of killing Timothy Foselin, 53, with a single gunshot wound to the eye and Brian Maas, 36, with shots to his head, neck and back after the last customer left Lloyd`s Gun Shop in Minneapolis shortly before 7 p.m. on June 23, according to Minneapolis Police Lt. Brad Johnson. The assailants took 96 handguns, rifles and shotguns and fled the store, he said."
 
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Good for that lady! Every clerk in gun shops in my area is armed and open carrying. These guys would have had about 6 - 8 guns pointed back at them.
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Yeah, at one of the shops I go to there would be at least 6 guns on these thugs. And all these guys and gals know how to shoot.

Thugs would be on the way to the morgue...
 
I've looked at the video several times, and she appears to get off three shots before she's hit herself. I think she's spent some time at the range practicing her draw and rapid-fire. Not someone to mess with, as the thugs found out.
 
Yep gun shops, 7-11s and liquor stores are all likely targets. This reminds me of the armed robbery of a Turners Outdoorsman store here in San Bernardino some years ago. The robbers blitzed the store employees with guns drawn and got away with lots of firearms. Luckily the store was being staked out by police due to an earlier robbery at the Turners in Riverside. As I recall all the bad guys were all captured/killed by the good guys after a wild car chase.
 
OK. Maybe it's just me, but what kind of a thought process must someone have to go through to get to the point where they say to themselves; "You know, I think I'll go rob a gun store."?
 
gen3guy said:
OK. Maybe it's just me, but what kind of a thought process must someone have to go through to get to the point where they say to themselves; "You know, I think I'll go rob a gun store."?
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No one ever said criminals were intelligent or put a lot of thought into committing their crime! I think they have to start off with an over-sized ego, over-confident in their ability, a strong sense of invincibility, and the thought that they have the right to take what ever they want.
 
I hope the BG rots of infection from the inside out. Worthless piles of @#$* that they are. You got 'em grandma, great job and glad you're OK.
 
gen3guy said:
OK. Maybe it's just me, but what kind of a thought process must someone have to go through to get to the point where they say to themselves; "You know, I think I'll go rob a gun store."?
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But see, there you go thinking like a normal sane person. ;):)

Seriously, though: I can understand why they wanted to rob the gun store, since they could get away with either cash or guns/ammo or both. I think they knew how many employees would be on duty, and they counted on the element of shock and surprise (fortunately, these didn't work for them), and figured that by a quick, coordinated strike they could eliminate or neutralize any opposition, and get what they wanted.

The one perp had the big bag with him, which tells me they planned to fill it full of something -- probably guns that could be sold for a high profit on the street.

I think this is a cautionary tale for gun shop owners, and that they need to make sure they have enough help on hand to take care of a multiple-assailant situation in their stores. Otherwise, they need to be able to control how many customers are in the store at any given time.

Curiously enough, when I think about the "big box" outdoor stores I have visited that have firearms departments, I don't remember noticing that their employees open-carry. Maybe they do, but if not, that's a scary thought....
 
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