Should I care about bullet weight for recreational shooting?

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I have .38 special J frames and .38/.357 N frames.

Does it matter which bullet weight I use for recreational shooting at the range? some are about 130 gr and some are about 150.

The .38 recoil is no problem with the J's or the N's.

the .357's have a noticable kick. Which bullet weight will kick more in the .357, high or low?
 
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Let's start with 38 Special. I personally don't notice much difference between the various bullet weights. Some guns with fixed sights, however, will be regulated for a particular bullet weight. If your gun shoots low with 125gr, then going to 158gr may bring the shots up to POA/POI. 130gr is kind of an odd weight, I only really see it in the Remington UMC load. It's a very dirty load, but it's sold at Wal-Mart so many people shoot it.

For 357 Magnum you have some more things to consider. Very hot 125gr loads are the infamous "flame cutting" loads. Not too much a problem for an N frame, but still it's good to be aware of. I personally notice a more jarring, uncomfortable recoil with top end 158gr loads compared to 125gr in 357 Magnum. Everything comes down to the load though in the ammo you are buying. In reloading, you can make a 125gr round feel like a small explosion, or a 158gr feel like a .22.

You said this is for recreational shooting so I won't bother mentioning hunting considerations. If you are only buying factory ammo, then try a couple different loads and see what shoots well in your guns. Be aware of bullet weight but don't treat it as the end all be all for paper punching.

Hope that helps.
 
If you have your own private bulls eye competition going on consistency is everything. Whichever you pick stay with that one.

Also I have read S&W revolvers are factory 'aimed' for 158 gr bullets at 25 yds.

As far as 'kick,' typically a 357 caliber bullet is exiting your revolver a LOT faster than the 38 cal, it is a matter of physics - For every action there is an equal and opposite reaction (recoil). The same size bullet traveling 50% or more faster through the same barrel will cause more recoil. 'Felt' recoil can be increased or decreased with longer or shorter barrels, bigger or smaller weight guns, hotter loads and reduced powder loads, etc. The calculation for bullet 'energy' includes squaring the velocity, so recoil goes up much more by adding speed to a bullet; adding a bit of weight - 158gr vs. 125gr - to the bullet and not changing the speed (or even slightly reducing it) means the recoil is not changed as much.

I don't have an 'N' frame, but I do have a K frame 4" and a J frame Airweight, the 'kick' from the 357 in the 4" K frame is heartier than the kick from a 38 in the 1 7/8" J frame; but when I add +P loads to the J frame the felt recoil is not much different from the 357 K frame. Contrary-wise, when I shoot regular 38 spl through the K frame the kick is negligible, and easy on these old hands.

I practice defensive shooting, hitting a paper plate at 3-8 yards from different positions is good for me. But if I was to shoot bulls eye for recreation I think I would buy a big box of 38 158gr at the best price and shoot them out of both J frame and my K frame. I could shoot 38's all day that way.

Whatever you do, do it consistently. Find a brand and size bullets you like and stick to them. That way hitting the bulls eye well is your responsibility, not the bullets. :D

HTH
 
I'm a firm believer in practicing with the same weight/ballistics as what you use for hd/pd. Practice doesn't make perfect, perfect practice makes perfect.
 
Cartridge, Caliber .38 Ball, Special, M41

...130gr is kind of an odd weight, I only really see it in the Remington UMC load. It's a very dirty load, but it's sold at Wal-Mart so many people shoot it.

That load pretty much duplicates the military variant of the .38 Special cartridge designed to conform to the rules of land warfare M41 ball had a 130-grain FMJ bullet loaded to a maximum allowable pressure of 16,000 psi for a velocity about 750 ft/s from a 4-inch (100 mm) revolver barrel.
 
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