Should I risk buying shield?

Considering how many Shields have sold, you'd have to be pretty lucky/unlucky to end up with one that is dysfunctional. Who knows, maybe a lot of new shooters are doing something wrong to wreck these guide rods. It hasn't reached recall-worthy status yet.

That being said, if money is tight and you want a single stack 9mm, go with the Taurus 709. It's a great gun and if your opinion on guns is based on forum complaints, the 709 is leagues ahead of the Shield.
 
My 2 cents. I just got my 9mm Shield last month, so far 400 + rounds no issues, I did order a spare RSA so I have the spare just in case I ever need it,, SO 12$ shipped is not going to break me :) Also if someone here needed one ASAP I would sell it to them ! Google Shield reviews and you will see tons of great reviews and very few complaints,Read reviews on Taurus Not so good on their autos. Now the older Taurus was a good gun! Welcome to the forum!
 
Get the Shield

I am one of those who initiated a thread about the problems I had with my Shield's RSA. It came from the factory with a bent rear RSA spring retainer disc. At the time, I did not know what effect it might have on its performance. Now with 1000 rounds through it, I know the answer: very little. The Shield has performed very well, though not perfectly, since I bought it. My only concern is that it has an FTE rate of about 1%, which I regard as higher than desirable for a self-defense weapon. (In contrast, my M&P 40c has an FTE rate of 0% through 3000 rounds. S&W set the expectation bar pretty high with the 40c.) Overall, though, I think my Shield is a fine, fun-to-shoot gun with an excellent trigger and a surprising degree of accuracy for such a short barrel. And its FTE rate may be ammo-related – I'm still experimenting with different brands and weights.

I have continued to contribute to my original thread because my problems are not with the Shield as much as they are with my attempts to get an undamaged RSA. It has now been about 2½ months and I still have no functional replacement. Things have been so strange, I am beginning to find it amusing. It's kind of an adventure now, wondering what S&W will send me next. (I would not be so amused if my Shield was out of action.) Nonetheless, I have posted many positive things about my Shield in various threads. For an example, check out my post under "Rastoff's Challenge II" in the Concealed Carry section of General Topics.

All of the above has been a long prolog to my main point: You should get the Shield.

It is a great gun, and you can ensure that it will be so from Day 1, if you give the RSA a thorough inspection before you buy. Here's what you should do:
(Do not deal with any seller who won't let you do this.)

First, lock back the slide, and gently pull and twist the disc on the front of the RSA's protruding inner guide rod. It should be tightly attached to the rod. If there is any movement of the disc at all, the RSA is defective and will come apart in the near future. Move on to another Shield.

If the front disc passes the test, have your friendly salesperson remove the slide and the RSA. Examine the RSA's rear retainer disc. If there is no sign of bending, you're good to go. If it is bent, you can do one of two things: look at another Shield, or; if it isn't bent too badly and you're willing to take a risk that it won't hurt the Shield's performance, use it as a negotiating tool to drive down the price.

Finally, once you get your Shield, make sure that the RSA is fully inserted, straight and level, whenever you reassemble it. Then your only problem will be with your ammo budget, because you'll find yourself shooting a lot of it through your new Shield.
 
I bought my Shield just about 1 week ago. Only shot 50 through it so far. Has a bent RSA. Called S&W to request a new one. Plan to keep shooting it. Great shooting gun. I don't regret my purchase at all.
 
People fall in the shower and hurt themselves everyday. Should I risk taking a shower?
 
I thought the shield was pretty reliable and SW service was good but now am reading about problems with the guide rod/spring and the company failing to send replacement.
Think you answered your own question. I am sure your aware but if you do go with a Glock or XD there is about a $125 difference which seems to be out of your prince range.
 
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I ordered a should 40 a couple weeks back and finally get to pick it up Monday. I found out about the RSA issue after my order and I never once thought to cancel the order. If I have any RSA issues I will just order the stainless RSA and problem solved. Knowing the issue I am going to be extra careful putting it back together as to not bend it.
 
I'm convinced Loxk is just trolling.... I mentioned that fact back in post #10 & he's still talking about how S&W sucks & he's gonna buy a Taurus... C'mon Mod's.. lock this up
 
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My take is this: The Shield is a great gun and I love it. Would I buy another one? Yup. Is it a quality firearm? Yes. Does the RSA share the same level of quality as the rest of the gun? Nope. Would I immediately fib and tell CS that I need a new RSA just so that I get in the queue to get a backup? Yes. The fact that I feel I would need to do that tells me that there is a real problem with the quality of the RSA and with the delays in shipping. I do like the Shield enough that I would take the chance and buy one however. Odds are still good that I wouldn't have any issues at all.

Being an engineer that is all too familiar with mandates to reduce cost, it's apparent to me that the RSA took the biggest hit in cost reduction efforts. As I've mentioned before, I'd love to see the original design. My opinion is they backed the quality out of it to the hairy edge of proper functionality and reliability. The smallest margin of error in manufacturing will quickly tip the scale toward future part failure. There needs to be a balance between cost and quality and I think cost won this time. Combine that with the fact that they are always on backorder and it can be frustrating for those who do need a new one. A redesign of the RSA would be simple but I imagine that S&W has ordered a bazillion of these things and can't back out. Once inventory is exhausted I bet there will be a "new and improved" RSA in the next gen Shield.

In short, I would agree that most Shields experience no problems with the RSA whatsoever. For the ones that do, it was completely preventable which is what is so frustrating.

Just do what you feel is right and spend lots of time on this forum (it's one of the best). Just the fact that you asked the question means that you are a more educated consumer and can go in knowing what to look for.
 
My Shield hasn't had any issues

Out of the many thousands of Shields that have been sold don't let the complaints of a few stop you from buying what I think is one of the best CCW guns on the market. When you go to a forum (about any product) you will always see the few who have had problems and have expressed their frustrations. I bought my Shield this year and have put probably close to 1,000 rounds through it. I have not experienced one malfunction. No stovepipes, jams or anything. This is the first gun I can say that about. I purposely bought a Shield without an external thumb safety for two reasons. One, I don't want one on a CCW. Second, I knew that to be a newer model so any issues that might have occurred with older Shields I would be avoiding. Keep in mind that S&W does have lifetime warranties for the original owner of the gun and I don't know any other manufacturer that offers that. If you are really considering buying a CCW, do yourself a favor and get a Shield. Regards, Elliot45
 
I signed up to ask if it's worth buying a shield or if my money is better spent on an XDs or Glock 43. 100 more for a functional gun is worth it.

So has SW dropped to Taurus quality or not?

No it hasn't. You will find many happy Shield owners. Mine has over 6500 trouble free rounds through it. Any gun can have issues, from any manufacturer, Glock included.

If you question all your purchases based on the same criteria, you will never purchase anything. You can find problems with every product by looking at the online forums.
 
Another thing about customer service is to try a couple times. It may just be a rep or employee that's bad; not the company.
When I got my 45c, I wanted to remove the plugs and emailed them to see if they'd send them out. They said they don't send out to non-gunsmiths and that was that. Earlier this year, I emailed again and they just asked for an address and got em a few days later.

Working in retail with electronics, the customers are crazy loyal or despise a company because of one incident with an employee of that company.

I bought an M&P45c and the 9mm shield neither have had any problems.
 
Pretty much what Robz said a few posts up. It's the same thing about the 40 shield "problems" that were going on. The only reason why I traded my 40 shield for a 9 shield is because I shot the shield 9 better than the 40. Plus 9 ammo for me is cheap since I have a friend that reloads for me. Don't read too much into what the net says.
I wanted to like the Glock 43 but its too small in my hands. Not that I would have bought it since I have the shield but it was nice to hold/shoot.
 
Had my Shield 9mm close to 6 weeks & 450 rds. NO issues at all including WWB. Yes, the slide is stiff to cycle initially and the mags are quite hard to load with out a loader, but my Shield is great and will be my primary carry with a few more rounds & practice. Don't think it's fair to comment on cust svc based on internet "hearsay". I've dealt with S&W cust svc on three occasions with my BG380's. S&W has been nothing short of great. I also have a Taurus 2" 85 revolver that had to go back twice for timing issues. My Taurus 85 is now a very nice smooth revolver. Both times Taurus cust svc was polite and did what they said in a timely manner.
Life's a choice, make yours. That way if you aren't happy, look in the mirror.
 
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I'm new to gun ownership and bought a 9mm shield about 6 months ago. I've put about 1,000 rounds through it since then without any issues. As a noob I carefully read the manual before using the gun and each of the first few times I cleaned it. The manual clearly shows how to seat the rsa. No issues, love shooting it.
I agree that the originator of this thread seems to be trolling.
 
Screw this guy he made up his mind. People like us who have abused the **** out of our shields know its a great firearm period! And this is coming from a glock fanboy!
 
I don't understand why this thread is allowed to continue, yet my thread that I started regarding open carry Vs concealed carry was closed by the mod's...
 
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Loxk - Buy the shield. I was so pleased with my first one, that I bought another one. At $389.00 they're the best bang for your buck. Period.

Considering an XDS? Read the complaints about the light primer strikes and the failure to return to battery......picked up one earlier this year (new - production date 12/14), experienced both problems first hand and promptly got rid of it.
 
I don't understand why this thread is allowed to continue, yet my thread that I started regarding open carry Vs concealed carry was closed by the mod's...

because this thread is overwealmingly PRO
S&W content about the Shield...
and your "carry" thread was not...
and advertising dollars drive this site

To the OP's question I say
If I had it to do all over again right now...
I'd still by another Shield !
 
I bought a Fusion Hybrid, knew it didn't have a spare tire (but LOTS of batteries). So when I cut down the sidewall I had to have the car towed (on a Saturday of course) to have a new tire mounted Monday.

Should I go buy a used tire and keep it in the trunk (or better yet, one mounted on a steel wheel ready to go)? Probably, but it is not the life and death decision that comes from making a choice on your EDC weapon.

The Recoil Spring is either: a nuisance or a non- issue. Mine was a non issue, but (and I've posted this about 12 time in the last two weeks), SSGR for $25 will build you a Rolls Royce GR and you'll probably NEVER have to think about it again.

Would I like the perfect weapon? Yes. A Willie Korth .357 would do nicely, but for $8,000 it isn't happening.

Buy the Shield if it fits your hand, you can hit paper, it rides comfortably, AND YOU DEVELOP CONFIDENCE IN YOUR ABILITY TO USE THE TOOL CORRECTLY. If not, find something else.

The market is Overabundant with quality hardware right now: Sig, Glock, H&K, Beretta, Kel Tec, Ruger (my second choice), and many many others.

Get to a range with a certified instructor and MANY rental guns. Spend the money on quality ammo and see what fits you best.

It is like test driving cars. 20 minutes around the dealership and you won't find that nagging issue (like~~not enough leg room), so rent what you think you'll like from Enterprise for a weekend and drive it until you can make a reasonable decision on the +'s and -'s of each choice.

Buying a weapon over the internet is useless. The background knowledge you gain BEFORE you hit the range and test drive each one is invaluable.

I spent 3 weeks right here (lurking) so I could make an informed decision when I walked into my LGS and listened to their advice (they are Glock from dawn to dusk), and ultimately chose the Shield over the LC9. (Better leg room!!)
 
because this thread is overwealmingly PRO
S&W content about the Shield...
and your "carry" thread was not...
and advertising dollars drive this site

To the OP's question I say
If I had it to do all over again right now...
I'd still by another Shield !




When a forum is being driven by advertisment, it makes me wonder about the intregrity of the info being shared....

That being said. I am a loyal S&W customer and the M&P series most particularly the Shield are among the best pistols I have ever owned & shot.
 
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Shield…….is it worth buying?

I own four glocks, 2 of the 17's, 2 of the 19's. My EDC……….shield 9mm. Nuff said.
 
I own the Shield in 9mm and do not regret buying it!
I put 500 rds. through it before I could get any where proficient at hitting a target at 10yds.
Now it comes much easier! Groups are tight and consistent.
I shoot mostly 124gr. ball ammo.

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I posted that thread...yet you're saying it was shot down because the topic would have been...what?

When a forum is being driven by advertisment, it makes me wonder about the intregrity of the info being shared....

Shot down because its no different than a popular individual loosing corporate financial support for a perceived moral infraction.

It is obvious to me this site takes into account the potential to loose advertising content/dollars if advertisers find content objectionable...

I have observed this by the actions or lack of taken by the staff and moderators...with one exception so far (there is at least one member who has a confederate flag for an Avatar...considering the current political climate I find it odd that this is allowed because advertisers should find this highly objectionable due to the racial implications)...

The integrity of the content rests in those who post it and is enhanced when an objective membership can overlook a subjective staff's moderating decisions...
 
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It seems that the OP is worried about the shields reliability. I joined the forums and searched the internet for the reliability of the shield when I first looked into it. I was turned onto the shield by someone who swore by glocks and everything else is junk. I like glocks so when this guy started pushing the shield it had to be something. Did my research and yes there were some bad reviews but I have put many rounds through it and I had one issue with it. Sent it to the factory and they repaired it for free and took care of it.

I am a big glock guy but as I have noticed that as great as glock is there just to pricey to keep buying when I am looking to get a new pistol. I have slowly been getting more into the M&P line. The price point is good for the average person compared to glock, IMHO.

If you are worried about it and you are looking for a carry gun then go shop around and find something you are comfortable with. If you can shoot one before you buy do that, if not and you have a second carry pistol carry both till you are comfortable with it. I would not hesitate to buy another shield or recommend them.
 
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