Show and Tell-Your WWII Military Contract 1911A1

Back in around 1988, I took the train from LA to Richland, WA with my girlfriend to visit her Grandparents. I think I was 18 or 19. Her Grandfather was a WWII Vet. During the visit, we drove out into the desert and fired his 1911 he brought back from the war. First time I had shot a .45 or 1911.

I than went through Army basic in 89/90 were we qualified with the 1911. It took another 25 years, but I finally picked-up a WWII 1911.

This is a late war all original Remington Rand I picked-up in 2015. It was bought through the NRA/DCM by a WWII vet and included the original paperwork (although the serial number seems to have been written incorrectly. 5 should be a 6). The last pic is of Loren Parliament who I assume bought it from the NRA/DCM.

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Back in around 1988, I took the train from LA to Richland, WA with my girlfriend to visit her Grandparents. I think I was 18 or 19. Her Grandfather was a WWII Vet. During the visit, we drove out into the desert and fired his 1911 he brought back from the war. First time I had shot a .45 or 1911.

I than went through Army basic in 89/90 were we qualified with the 1911. It took another 25 years, but I finally picked-up a WWII 1911.

This is a late war all original Remington Rand I picked-up in 2015. It was bought through the NRA/DCM by a WWII vet and included the original paperwork (although the serial number seems to have been written incorrectly. 5 should be a 6). The last pic is of Loren Parliament who I assume bought it from the NRA/DCM.

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Very nice. Ear!y in production Remington Rand had some quality issues with interchangibity of parts as required by contract but after that they were highest quality. They made over 1 million. Ithaca and Colt made about 300,000 each. Union Switch and Signal made about 35,000 and Singer 500. Enough were made so that the U.S. Military never bought any more after WWII.
 
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Don't see too many Mount Rainier stamped pistols. I believe yours is the first one I've ever seen.

You have some nice pistols.
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As do you. The pre-a1 pistols are my big interest, I am searching for a good Springfield and a Rem UMC slide. I had one mated to a Colt frame years ago but sold it.

I'm also working on putting together sort of a clone of a mythical one, a Winchester based on scraps of info I've hunted down.

Here are a couple close-ups of the arsenal stamp in case anyone is interested.

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Where did you obtain the shipping document on the Ithaca 1911A1? Have tried to locate shipping information on mine but apparently those documents have been lost over the years. Mine is serial # 12670XX. Definitely a late 1943 manufacture.

Nice one you have.

I posted pictures, with a clear shot of the serial number, on 1911Forum.com in the subforum on USGI/Foreign Military and other Vintage 1911s

USGI/Foreign Military and other Vintage 1911s - 1911Forum

and someone sent me a private message with a copy of the packing slip
 
I have a post-war Augusta Arsenal rebuild. It is a Remington-Rand slide on a 1918 Colt 1911 frame. The parkerized finish is great shape. Generic magazine and a weird after-market comp/bushing.

I bought in March. I went into the local Cabela's and saw it in the Gun Library. When I asked to look at I thought it was mis-marked - $650. It was mine for an even better price after applying the military discount and my Cabela's bucks. A replacement bushing was just $20.

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Very nice. Ear!y in production Remington Rand had some quality issues with interchangibity of parts as required by contract but after that they were highest quality. They made over 1 million. Ithaca and Colt made about 300,000 each. Union Switch and Signal made about 35,000 and Singer 500. Enough were made so that the U.S. Military never bought any more after WWII.

And don't forget about North American Arms in Canada. They reached the pre-production stage of manufacturing, and approximately 100 toolroom/pre-production pistols were made, but no pistols were delivered. Rarest of the rare!

Somewhere, in my "stuff", I have a newspaper article about a bank robbery committed with a North American Arms .45. The article shows a picture of the gun and mentions the fact that the gun used in the holdup was actually worth considerably more than the amount of money stolen in the robbery. Talk about the ultimate "stupid criminal"! :eek:
 
I was stationed in Newfoundland, where we had the old .45's, as the AF didn't want to send new small arms, as the contract called for Canada to get the base when we left. Shoulder arms were M-2 .30 carbines.

I found that our security augmentees and even some fellow AP's did not know how to operate these WWII vintage arms! And most didn't really care. They just assumed/hoped that if war came, the Russians wouldn't land troops to take out our radar station or attack Ernest Harmon AFB, some 30 or so miles distant from our more remote radar station.

I tore down several guns and built me a Colt (I think it had all Colt parts) with wide hammer spur and all checkered non-slip surfaces. Everything was in really nice condition, too. I wish that I could have kept that gun.

I did own a Gold Cup bought at the BX and the British surplus one bought earlier in Denver. I'd left it with my family when heading to Nfld. Took just a .303 SMLE and a Husqvarna .270, having moose and maybe caribou in mind. I bought a Remington M-1100 shotgun while there, but never got to hunt birds.

The country was wild and beautiful, and I got to fish salmon rivers that were open to public fishing, unlike many waters containing Atlantic salmon. This being in Canada, I couldn't carry a pistol in the woods, and even long arms had to be carried only in season, by licensed hunters.

I was worried about black bears, even moose, which do occasionally attack people. The most lethal weapon I could carry off base was my Randall Model 3 hunting knife, with six-inch blade. BTW, a good rap on the head from the spine of a stout knife will kill most trout quickly.

I still miss that Colt .45 that I assembled for duty wear. My commander couldn't care less which holster I wore, so I got a Safariland that was sort of the auto equivalent to the Tom Threepersons style. I also took a black GI M-1916 holster that I think I bought in Denver. I wore whichever holster I wanted on a given day. And I carried a Henckels lockblade folding hunting knife in a flight jacket or parka pocket, and a Wostenholm I*XL Scout knife or a Swiss Army knife, in my trousers. I got the Victorinox knife by mail while stationed there, from Hunting World in NYC. Cost me about $5.95, but that was more money then than modern kids think. Bob Lee, a safari hunter who owned Hunting World, had mentioned Swiss Army knives in his books, and I was keen to try one. I've loved them ever since.

Of course, I had my beloved Randall sheath knife, but couldn't wear it on duty.

The very first 1911 I ever handled was a true M-1911, a Colt that had belonged to a boyhood friend's grandfather, an officer in WWI. I got to play with it some, and learned how to field strip one, and I was already reading Jeff Cooper, so knew what a fine design it was, and it fit my hand well.

This topic has taken me back many years, and you now know my history with the famous Colt pistol. I still think it's a premier fighting handgun.

I instilled a fondness for it in my son, who occasionally carried one in Iraq, as a contractor after completing his Army service. But his employer had limited .45 ammo and few magazines. He fired four mags of 9mm ammo in a couple of engagements, and liked the MK III Browning Hi-Power even more, so that's what he usually carried. ( While a US soldier, he was, not surprisingly, limited to the Beretta M-9, which he found to be very effective.) He now has .45 autos, but still uses 9mm's more.

That's the story of my family's involvement with Colt's Government Model .45 auto. I like it.
 
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I have a 1943 Ithaca 1911A1 that I horse traded for a Saur 38H in 32 acp. Shot it often with hard cast 230 grain rn bullets. Not much to look at as some of the parkerization has worn off on the outside of the slide from bring in a military holster and a few dings in the muzzle from tank hatches so it has that been there look. Frank
 
Very nice. Ear!y in production Remington Rand had some quality issues with interchangibity of parts as required by contract but after that they were highest quality. They made over 1 million. Ithaca and Colt made about 300,000 each. Union Switch and Signal made about 35,000 and Singer 500. Enough were made so that the U.S. Military never bought any more after WWII.

US&S actually made 55,000 pistols, all in 1943.

Colt made almost 452,000 pistols during the war years (I count 1939 as a war year), with a little over 7600 of those being Navy contract pistols.
 
My 1943 Remington Rand. Reworked at Rock Island Arsenal. I haven't seen too many Remington Rands with the flaming bomb stamp and Frank Krack's initials.

I'm pretty sure I've mentioned this before...this is the pistol I used to qualify for my concealed carry license.

I wouldn't hesitate for a second to use this pistol for home defense. Matter of fact, it is one of three pistols that are always ready in different parts of the house.

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I have been collecting guns for a while and researching them diligently for years...the 1911 and 1911A1's have always been in my top two handgun categories as 'GI guns' from WWII. Over the years I have owned a handful, various Colts, Remington, Ithaca, and bring backs that were modified for target usage.

The one I kick myself over is that when I was first starting in this hobby, by dumb luck, I came across one of the first 12, 1911's issued to the USMC in 1912 I believe. It wasn't perfect and had been re-blued, but I wish I would have hung on to that one.

I have a model 1918 'Black Colt' that has seen use and not much (any?) bluing left, but it is a really nice worn in shooter. My goal in the next year or two (next week? :D) is to find a plain 1911 or 1911A1 in great condition as a collectible and just enjoy the ownership until it is passed on to the next generation.

This is just my opinion obviously, but when I think what is the most iconic semi-auto firearm ever produced, I think of the history and utility of the 1911/1911A1.

There is just something about them that says 'this is the real deal'.
 
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