It is, but when shortened like that, it can also refer to the 45 S&W Special, the very 1st chambering for the 1st Model Triple Lock.
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It is, but when shortened like that, it can also refer to the 45 S&W Special, the very 1st chambering for the 1st Model Triple Lock.
Engraved Triple Lock
Engraved 4" Triple Lock .44 Special with a drift adjustable rear sight and a pretty cool bead front sight that still maintains the round profile I like on a fixed sight HE. Shoots well enough that I qualified with it on the state LE pistol course with a 100% score- while it was wearing the jigged bone grips that it came with when I bought it.
Engraved 4" Triple Lock .44 Special with a drift adjustable rear sight and a pretty cool bead front sight that still maintains the round profile I like on a fixed sight HE. Shoots well enough that I qualified with it on the state LE pistol course with a 100% score- while it was wearing the jigged bone grips that it came with when I bought it.
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WHERE ARE THE RUBY EYES!!!???
I only have one set of steerhead pearl that had ruby eyes. They are on the 5" nickel Triple Lock they came to me on and unfortunately one ruby eye was missing. If I can`t find a suitable replacement I may have to just put a little eyepatch on it.
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OK. Somebody needs to tone this down a bit with another visit from Bubba himself. I picked this up a few years ago for $200.
~1944 Victory (originally a .38 S&W BSR) with a bored cylinder and wearing 70's PC Magna's and a period-correct 4" 38 SPL barrel. The highlight is the improvised plastic thumb latch. You can't see the vice marks on the frame in the picture but this was a backyard barrel exchange for sure.
I had a blast learning about S&W's with this guy. It now wears smooth Victory grips, with a lanyard ring, and a proper thumblatch (and a few new springs etc.)
~1944 Victory (originally a .38 S&W BSR) with a bored cylinder and wearing 70's PC Magna's and a period-correct 4" 38 SPL barrel. The highlight is the improvised plastic thumb latch. You can't see the vice marks on the frame in the picture but this was a backyard barrel exchange for sure.
I had a blast learning about S&W's with this guy. It now wears smooth Victory grips, with a lanyard ring, and a proper thumblatch (and a few new springs etc.)
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Model 58 revolving rifle.
Not mine..saw it on an auction site this morning.
I think they said they 19" barrel in 44-40.
Regards,
Bruce
Not mine..saw it on an auction site this morning.
I think they said they 19" barrel in 44-40.
Regards,
Bruce
I wrote this revolver up for the forum "S&W Revolvers, 1961 to 1980" but I think it deserves inclusion here. I found it at the recent gun show in Odssa, TX; it's a K frame, 22 caliber Combat Masterpiece with a 2 1/4 inch pinned barrel and a round butt. It's marked Mod 18-4 (proper marking for a 22 Combat Masterpiece) in the frame cutout for the crane. Serial number on the butt starts 82K which makes it 1980 production. On the left side of the butt near the bottom is a five digit number that doesn't match the serial number, and the number E 11. On the right side of the butt is another five digit number and two symbols: the number 5 in a hexagon and another number 5 in a heart. I've never seen anything like this on a Smith before and wonder what the markings mean. I didn't think Combat Masterpieces came with a round butt; however this one is so well executed I wonder if possibly it left the factory this way.
Then there's the barrel. It apears to have come from a short barreled 357 with the shrouded ejector rod. It's in two pieces with an insert in 22 caliber. The workmanship involved in putting this together so that it aligns with the chambers is mind-boggling. The stamping on the left side of the barrel is the normal 'Smith & Wesson' but the right side has in small letters: S&W and larger ones: 22LR. I haven't shot it yet; the temperatures have been over 100º since I got back from Odessa, but I'm eager to see how well it shoots. What do I have? What's the meaning of these strange markings? Where did the round butt come from? Explanations, conjectures and SWAGs gratefully received.
Then there's the barrel. It apears to have come from a short barreled 357 with the shrouded ejector rod. It's in two pieces with an insert in 22 caliber. The workmanship involved in putting this together so that it aligns with the chambers is mind-boggling. The stamping on the left side of the barrel is the normal 'Smith & Wesson' but the right side has in small letters: S&W and larger ones: 22LR. I haven't shot it yet; the temperatures have been over 100º since I got back from Odessa, but I'm eager to see how well it shoots. What do I have? What's the meaning of these strange markings? Where did the round butt come from? Explanations, conjectures and SWAGs gratefully received.
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Some decided to round butt it, not surprising considering the rest of the work that went into the gun.
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... It's marked Mod 18-4 (proper marking for a 22 Combat Masterpiece) in the frame cutout for the crane. Serial number on the butt starts 82K which makes it 1980 production... I didn't think Combat Masterpieces came with a round butt; however this one is so well executed I wonder if possibly it left the factory this way.
Then there's the barrel. It appears to have come from a short barreled 357 with the shrouded ejector rod. It's in two pieces with an insert in 22 caliber...
What do I have? What's the meaning of these strange markings? Where did the round butt come from? Explanations, conjectures and SWAGs gratefully received.
You have the elusive "Model 18.5-4".
Half Model 18 and Half Model 19. It looks to be a perfect fit for this thread and a modified 18 frame with a .22 sleeved model 19 barrel. Let us know how it shoots. Someone went throught a lot of work to create that gun.
It would have been much easier to chop the front end off of the Model 18 and re-attach the front sight.
Thanks for sharing,
Cyrano,
That's an interesting Model 18 and someone's dream gun created in steel.
Let's walk thru some of the puzzles you mentioned:
1. Actually all of the grip frame markings are standard. The 5 digit # on left side is the assembly # matching in two other locations; on the yoke and inside of the side plate. Formerly in the "yoke cut" of the frame, it was moved to make room for the s/n and Model # in the yoke cut.
The 04544 on the right side is common to Mod 18s of this period, my 18-4 has the same #. The other stamps are typical inspector stamps and can be found in squares, triangles, hexagons, circles, rectangles, hearts, etc, during this period.
2. The round butt grip frame shape is not factory. And although very skillfully executed, the rear round butt corner does not match the front corner and would not have come from the factory that way. By the 1980s era, stocks were no longer fitted individually and numbered to the grip frame. So the generic shaped stocks would not fit the sharp corner properly.
3. The origin of the barrel is pretty obvious and has been discussed. More often when we see shrouded barrels added to the Mod 18, a 22 Jet Barrel is used from the Model 53, which is simpler/cheaper than relining a 357 barrel and re-stamping it 22 LR.
Also the Jet barrel is stamped 22 Magnum, but the gun I built also had a 22 Mag cyl installed as a convertible.
Also you notice the front frame surface is too short for the barrel shroud and it therefore hangs down. The correction for this is to slightly reduce the horizontal bottom edge of the shroud. At least that's how I've done it. Most will not go to that trouble.
The barrel rib is also wide for the gun's top strap, some leave it, and some mill it narrower and/or lower to match the top strap. But the easiest to fix is the gap between the front end of the rear sight tang and back of the barrel rib. The Model 66 two inch has an extra long sight tang that extends to the front of the frame and will fill the gap perfectly.
It's a great concept revolver! A K frame Kit Gun.
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Model 58 revolving rifle.
Not mine..saw it on an auction site this morning.
I think they said they 19" barrel in 44-40.
Regards,
Bruce
Wish S&W actually made these. I'd buy an 8-shot .357 magnum with a 16" barrel, would make a nice companion to my Marlin.
What is the serial number range?
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194,0xx. Seems pretty early to be in the 1946(?) shipment, right?
1917 Barrel Conversion Project
Got this WW I 1917 Army pretty cheap; all original except it had a cut down .455 Mk II barrel (bore dimensions all wrong for 45 ACP.)
Here it is converted to a barrel w/shroud the way the factory should have made them pre war, (at least after the military production), the same as the 44 Military and 38/44 HD.
Should have been a simple barrel change if I could have found a Classic or Thunder Ranch 1917 Model barrel. But all I could acquire is a SS tapered barrel for a 45 Colt Mtn Gun.
I milled off the rib and milled down the integral front sight base to match the pre war integral fixed sight base:
Made a half penny front sight blade replacement (pinned into base). It's a full 1/10" wide and the rear sight notch has been opened up to target sight notch width of .124":
Got this WW I 1917 Army pretty cheap; all original except it had a cut down .455 Mk II barrel (bore dimensions all wrong for 45 ACP.)
Here it is converted to a barrel w/shroud the way the factory should have made them pre war, (at least after the military production), the same as the 44 Military and 38/44 HD.
Should have been a simple barrel change if I could have found a Classic or Thunder Ranch 1917 Model barrel. But all I could acquire is a SS tapered barrel for a 45 Colt Mtn Gun.
I milled off the rib and milled down the integral front sight base to match the pre war integral fixed sight base:
Made a half penny front sight blade replacement (pinned into base). It's a full 1/10" wide and the rear sight notch has been opened up to target sight notch width of .124":
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Bubba sez hi:
What a way to treat a K-22OD, but seeing as how it was done by the original owner, I can cut him some slack. Apparently he didn't want no stinkin Call bead, he needed to draw a fine bead.
Someone with a bit more skill re-did the front site on my VM:
I don't know if it was built up by welding or what, but I can't see any seam or transition even under an illuminated magnifier.
What a way to treat a K-22OD, but seeing as how it was done by the original owner, I can cut him some slack. Apparently he didn't want no stinkin Call bead, he needed to draw a fine bead.
Someone with a bit more skill re-did the front site on my VM:
I don't know if it was built up by welding or what, but I can't see any seam or transition even under an illuminated magnifier.
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