Show us your .32 auto pistols!

Huh, pretty neat info thanks! Not to familiar with the colts, any idea/advice on how to determine?

The Govt. issued Colts are roll marked on the right side as shown below.
This one was built in 1944 and issued in 1961.
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A couple modern ones you don't see too often:

Benelli B77

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HK P7K3

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My goodness some of these 32s rival todays FS handguns in size.

Maybe I missed it but I'm surprised I didn't see a Hungarian Framor Stop. The double decker of handguns!
 
I've got a few .32 autos, more Berettas than any other brand. In the
first pic the upper left gun is one of the war finish 1944 models that
were made for the Nazis and has the 4UT acceptance stamp on the
tang. I think most of them were captured by the allies in warehouses
before they could be delivered. Below it is a post war 1935 dated 1949.
On the right is another dated 1952. The pair in the center are the
1915-1919 model that was made before the exposed hammer was
introduced in 1931. They have a concealed hammer and are very trim
and flat guns with sheet metal grips.
Next pic is a pair of 1910 FNs and a Savage 1907. The third pic has
another 1952 dated gun, a bit nicer than the other one and on the
bottom is a 1956 dated commercial 1935 showing the change to plain
plastic grips, no lanyard ring and contured slide with angled grooves.
A prewar 318 .25 acp is the smaller gun. These old semi autos are just
plain neat and fun to plink with.
 

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These things are addicting!!!

A Bernardelli followed me home today. The LGS wanted the outlandish price of $149! (I negotiated down to $125!):





Does anyone know anything about these proofmarks/date codes??



Does this one qualify as a pre-model 60?

There is just something sleek about an Italian pistol....... :)


Best,
Charles aka thirtytwocaliberautopistolaccumulator! ;)
 
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XIX is proof yr 1963
star/PSF is final smokeless proof for both Brescia or Gardone V.T. proof houses
(This mark is usually stamped along side a 'star/finito' stamping indicating the firearm has been inspected after proofing and is approved for retail sale.)

This particular star/shield is the provisional proof of the Gardone ValTrompia (SP?) proof house. It usually has a tiny 'V. T.' on either side of the upper side of the shield for this late of a marking.
Brescia Proof Hs has a very similar mark only differing in the tiny figure inside the shield,,, and no 'V.T.' marking

This, IMO, would be the 'Pocket Model', brought out in '46 or 47..I believe only in 32acp cal.

The other small autos were the 'Baby' & 'Vest Pocket'. The Baby being in 22s or Long. The VP in 25acp. These were open top slide designs like a Beretta.
Later a Model 68 took both their places and calibers and had a solid enclosed top slide. Mod68's are more commonly seen still.

FWIW, I think the 'Pocket Model' was also available with an extended bbl. Same slide,,just a naked round bbl extending forward. Maybe to favor some of the Euro gun laws.
 
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Just curious: In what job was this gun issued to your grandfather?

Btw., if this were my Grandpa's, I'd letter it. I have a lettered Savage 1907. As of two years ago, you could get a history letter from the Savage historian for something like $30 and it took only 4 weeks or so; same info as the Jinks letters. You should look into that.

I wondered about that "issued to my grandfather" comment also. I think the only military which ever used Savage autos was Portugal's. I still have one Savage .32 from the days I had an extensive collection of U. S. pocket pistols, and it plus the Remington 51s were my favorites. That Savage resides in my master bathroom linen closet under a pile of towels - in case I get caught with my pants down. There is no better manufacturing quality to be found than that of the Savage autopistols- the proverbial Swiss Watch of pistols. Manipulating the slide would be a little difficult for most women, as the spring is somewhat heavy.
 
"FWIW, I think the 'Pocket Model' was also available with an extended bbl. Same slide,,just a naked round bbl extending forward. Maybe to favor some of the Euro gun laws."

Prior to WWII, some European country gun control laws did prescribe minimum handgun barrel lengths (as Canada does today), which resulted in strange-looking small pocket autopistols having bare barrels sticking out several inches from the fronts of the slides. Of course, those who wanted a more concealable pistol and didn't worry much about gun laws simply took a hacksaw to the long barrels.
 
Here's a Dreyse, a very well made arm and about perfect internally. Accurate too.And a Savage in poor condition.
The Savage is a little different than the others in this thread, I think. Though striker fired, it has a spurred "hammer".
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Cocked Savage:
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and fired:
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The Dreyse has an interesting field strip system, one button and it breaks open:
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I think the only military which ever used Savage autos was Portugal's.

France also used the Savage, in WW I. The serial number range is known but I don't have it in front of me right now. They can be identified by a lanyard loop in the butt, as in the example illustrated. The rumor is that they were a Portugese order that was diverted to France which had a greater need for pistols in WWI. The holsters are marked AE, which I'm told is Portugese.
 

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I've already posted a picture of my French Savage. Here's some more pictures of it and its holster.
 

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Given the double stack magazine, does the Savage feel thick in the grips?

The other classic pocket pistols appear to be flatter.

How do they compare?
 
I measured a few 32s at the bottom of the butt. Much to my surprise, the Savage is the thinnest: Savage: 1.0"; Mauser HSc: 1.1"; Mauser M 1934: 1.13"; Colt M 1903: 1.26". The Savage is so thin because of the very thin, flat grips.
 
Here's a couple of pretty nice Colt's.

First is a 1903 Pocket Hammerless from 1906 that letters as being factory engraved (Cuno Helfricht) and factory pearl stocks.

Second is a 1903 Pocket Hammerless from 1944 that letters as being shipped to the O.S.S.


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Here's my W. Germany stamped Walther PPK/S in 7,65mm (.32 auto). It's a 1980 vintage, came NIB with papers and magazines. I pocket carry it when I can't carry my full sized pistols.

.32 auto is a fine little cartridge--low recoil and more power than a .22 or .25. Probably comparable to the .380 when using only FMJ.
 

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This is a Mauser 1914, 1915 manufacture date. This gun was a war bring back collected by my grandfather during his occupation of Nuremberg at the end of the war. He told me before he passed away several years ago, that he had come into possession of a Luger, and was offered this 1914 in trade by a former German officer following the disarmament. This gun supposedly was carried through both WWI and WWII as a German Officer's sidearm. It bears all of the proper proof marks from military use, and even has the original holster with it, also stamped 1915 on the inside of the flap. The gun, as can be seen in the photo has lost some of its bluing, but otherwise is in good condition. I have never shot it, nor do I have plans to ever do so. This is one of a small number safe queens that grace my collection because of its history and family value.
 
HK4, from 1973. Originally a West German Police gun. I bought it in the mid 80s, with the .22 conversion. Wish I had the .25 and .380 barrels as well. I'm told this was HKs first handgun.
 

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Two more are being added to the fold.....

As I stated before, this thread is a bad influence on me. ;)

This Ortgies will be here soon:



This nickle Colt 1903 made in 1919 just needs rescuing. ;) It came out of an estate & is currently in a pawn shop. I'm going to drive over & swap for it on Monday if it checks out mechanically.



Keep the pics coming.....!!

Best,
Charles
 
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