Sig P365 at the 7,500 round mark

[chief38]

I have had my Sig P365 now for about 5 years and have shot about 7,500 rounds through it. Most has been American Eagle or Federal 124 gr. FMJ as that is my standard Range ammo. I've also fired a few hundred Federal HST 124 grain JHP which is my everyday carry load. It has never missed a beat, no failures, no jams, just a pleasure to shoot and carry as my EDC.

Sig recommends that after about 3,000 - 4,000 rounds the springs and some wear parts should be replaced. They actually have a very reasonable service offer for $135 including freight both ways, they will do all the work including the parts and test firing. I opted to do the work myself as I did not want to part with the gun for a few weeks and I am not a fan of shipping firearms if at all avoidable. The parts cost me about the same as the service would have been, but I did not have to send it out. I did the parts swap yesterday and today I test fired 100 rounds out of the pistol. It worked perfectly as usual and always amazes me as to how accurate such a small 9mm can be.

Parts swapped were the recoil spring assy; the striker assy; the trigger return spring, the striker safety block and safety block spring. I only did this at Sig's recommendation (actually a bit late as I now have 7,500 rounds through the gun) even though I never had any malfunctions. I just like to err on the side of caution because this pistol is my main CCW / EDC.

I could not be happier with this P365 Micro 9 pocket pistol and can't think of another gun currently available that I'd replace it with! With 10+1 on board and a 17 round back up magazine a definite feeling of confidence is instilled! A few of the targets shot today with both FMJ and HST JHP ammo are below. I shot them today indoors at 12 yards (36 ft).

 

[chief38]

Oh - Yesterday I also shot the Springfield Hellcat for the first time. It is ever so slightly bigger and heavier than the P365 standard model but does hold 11 in the mag vs 10 in the standard P365 model. It was reliable, accurate and although I was not used to the U shaped rear sight, it was easy to line up. It shot impressively well and the trigger was also descent.

I had never shot the Hellcat before and think it is also a model you might consider - quite similar to the P365. Personally I would give the edge to the Sig P365 and buy it again over the Hellcat - but others might want to look and compare both. They are similarly priced so that is not a deciding factor. All in all, either makes a fantastic EDC micro 9mm pocket sized pistol, although the Sig is a little smaller and easier to pocket carry.

 

[MSD2343]

Congrats on your success with the P365, both in terms of its durability and your outstanding marksmanship with it. I’ve just passed the 6,000 round mark on my four year old Shield Plus which is my EDC. I changed out the recoil spring assembly at 4,500 rounds but have wondered about whether it would be wise to have the slide completely disassembled, inspected and cleaned.

 

[Mike SC Hunter]

SO. You have shot 150 boxs of ammo through one gun.

 

[chief38]

SO. You have shot 150 boxs of ammo through one gun.

Mike, I don't look at the P365 as "just another gun". In my opinion it is truly a game changer in the world of CCW/EDC. I have carried handguns of one sort or another for 48 years now (most are some sort of a compromise, as to weight, size, capacity & recoil) and I have never had such useful and efficient firepower in a 17.5 oz. pocket sized package. For a gun that is so light and that small and that holds 11 rounds of 9mm on board, is super accurate, reliable and easy to shoot, I see that as one of the milestones in firearms history. Not only that, but it goes to prove these Micro 9's don't fail, loosen up, fall apart or become inaccurate after a few thousand rounds.

As an almost half century toter, that impresses me quite a bit and I figured I'd post the results of 5 years of fairly regular usage of a new fangled CCW gun. While 150 boxes of ammo through one gun would not normally stop the presses, through one of these Micro 9's it is something note worthy. In the past when I carried a S&W M60-7 I was only relegated to 5 shots on board and as I get older I find it less enjoyable and more uncomfortable in shooting the Buffalo Bore +P 158 grain LSWCHP (my old carry round) rounds for practice and familiarity. I did and still do practice regularly with my EDC. With my old 5 shot Chief's Special the same accuracy was harder to achieve, recoil was much greater, obviously the on board capacity was less than half, and the package weighed more and the size was larger. With the P365 pocket carry is a breeze!

I have been super impressed with the P365 and could not be happier with it! Not one stoppage or failure to fire in all the 7,500 rounds! There are other similar choices out there as well, but I did want to post the findings of my last 5 years with this pistol - my one and only "plastic" firearm. IMHO, these new Micro 9's are a lot more than hype, they are the new generation of SD, HD, CCW, EDC pistols and for an old fart like myself to accept change, it must be pretty damned impressive. Figured maybe a few others might be interested in my 5 year experience with it.

Regards,
Chief38

 

[Barbarian-CBX]

My EDC is a P365 with 12 rd magazine and TLR-6 flashlight/laser in a pocket holster. One in the pipe and manual safety invoked.

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[Onomea]

I am a dyed-in-the-wool revolver guy, but I gotta say the many posts here on the virtues of the P365 do make me consider reconsidering...

Excellent marksmanship, Chief38. Impressive.

 

[Rule3]

It's because you used G96 Gun Treatment on it!
That is a lot of rounds through the gun!

 

[Well Armed]

Mike, I don't look at the P365 as "just another gun". In my opinion it is truly a game changer in the world of CCW/EDC. I have carried handguns of one sort or another for 48 years now (most are some sort of a compromise, as to weight, size, capacity & recoil) and I have never had such useful and efficient firepower in a 17.5 oz. pocket sized package. For a gun that is so light and that small and that holds 11 rounds of 9mm on board, is super accurate, reliable and easy to shoot, I see that as one of the milestones in firearms history. Not only that, but it goes to prove these Micro 9's don't fail, loosen up, fall apart or become inaccurate after a few thousand rounds.

As an almost half century toter, that impresses me quite a bit and I figured I'd post the results of 5 years of fairly regular usage of a new fangled CCW gun. While 150 boxes of ammo through one gun would not normally stop the presses, through one of these Micro 9's it is something note worthy. In the past when I carried a S&W M60-7 I was only relegated to 5 shots on board and as I get older I find it less enjoyable and more uncomfortable in shooting the Buffalo Bore +P 158 grain LSWCHP (my old carry round) rounds for practice and familiarity. I did and still do practice regularly with my EDC. With my old 5 shot Chief's Special the same accuracy was harder to achieve, recoil was much greater, obviously the on board capacity was less than half, and the package weighed more and the size was larger. With the P365 pocket carry is a breeze!

I have been super impressed with the P365 and could not be happier with it! Not one stoppage or failure to fire in all the 7,500 rounds! There are other similar choices out there as well, but I did want to post the findings of my last 5 years with this pistol - my one and only "plastic" firearm. IMHO, these new Micro 9's are a lot more than hype, they are the new generation of SD, HD, CCW, EDC pistols and for an old fart like myself to accept change, it must be pretty damned impressive. Figured maybe a few others might be interested in my 5 year experience with it.

Regards,
Chief38

The P365 doesn't do anything that other guns before it were already doing. The Sig name, marketing, and support simply made it popular. A smaller and lighter 10+1 micro 9mm with serialized chassis predates it. A small striker-fired micro 9mm with a removable serialized chassis predates it as well.

I do own a Hellcat and a S&W M&P Shield Plus, but I still choose a revolver and a traditional subcompact double stack. The Hellcat is something that I carry when I must have something smaller when I need deeper concealment; otherwise, it stays home.

Oh - Yesterday I also shot the Springfield Hellcat for the first time. It is ever so slightly bigger and heavier than the P365 standard model but does hold 11 in the mag vs 10 in the standard P365 model.....

FYI: The Hellcat is essentially the same size as the P365, but it's slightly lighter than the P365 and not the other way around. If not for getting a MUCH better deal price wise for a Hellcat over the P365, I'd gone with the P365. The Hellcat is cheaper than the P365 and has an extra round. I was able to pick up my Hellcat with optic cut with 6 magazines in total because of the Springfield "Gear Up" promotion for a couple of hundred less than it would have cost me to have a P365 and 6 mags in total.

The major reason why I give the P365 an edge is because Springfield Armory has a corporate policy against selling factory spare parts to consumers or third party vendors. If you need a simple spring or the like replaced, you require you send the entire gun in. I like to keep a lot of spare parts on hand for EDC guns I plan on carrying and using for many years to come. I don't want to have to ship one of my primary guns off and be without for a month when I can replace the part myself in 5 minutes or less. I also want to be covered if the model is ever discontinued. For all the aforementioned reasons, I would recommend the P365 over the Hellcat unless you get a killer deal or it's not going to be a primary.

P365
Length: 5.8 in
Height: 4.3 in
Width: 1 in
Weight: 18.5 oz

Hellcat
Length: 6 in
Height: 4.25 in
Width: 1 in
Weight: 18.3 oz

 

[otis24]

Thanks for your report!

 

[Jebus35745]

I was dedicated revolver ccw person, then a friend kept telling me about the 365. Bunch of friends have it so I finally bought one, a used TacPack. The 12 rounds gave me the capability of 2 K frames. Considering most of the bad guys I see arrested on the news have high cap mags it was time to change. Right behind me is a commercial area with a lot of undesirable people at restaurants and hotels.

Nice gun, doesn’t recoil as bad as it looks like it should. Very happy. Only have maybe 200 rounds though it so I am glad your gun has so many rounds fired, it shows it’s durable. The only thing I like about the Hellcat is the U notch rear sight. Larry

 

[shawn mccarver]

The P365 doesn't do anything that other guns before it were already doing. The Sig name, marketing, and support simply made it popular. A smaller and lighter 10+1 micro 9mm with serialized chassis predates it. A small striker-fired micro 9mm with a removable serialized chassis predates it as well.

Perhaps I missed it, but what pistol are you referring to when you say a smaller and lighter 10+1 micro 9mm with serialized chassis predates the P365?

 

[zeke]

The update is sincerely appreciated.

 

[Well Armed]

Perhaps I missed it, but what pistol are you referring to when you say a smaller and lighter 10+1 micro 9mm with serialized chassis predates the P365?

P-11 introduced in 1995. I remembered incorrectly when I stated it was smaller. The P11 is 0.2 of an inch longer aka the same length as the Springfield Hellcat.

All manufacturers are doing today is taking bits and pieces of what's already been done, are packaging it up, and selling it as the newest, latest, and greatest. Popularizing something doesn't equal being innovative.... Kind of how Ruger "borrowed" from Kel Tec with their LCP, made it more popular, and then got all of the accolades.

FYI: The Beretta Nanos predates the Sig P365 as the first micro striker-fired 9mm with a removable chassis system debuting in 2011.... That said, neither Nano, the P320, or P365 were the first handguns with a removable chassis.

 

[Oscar Zulu]

Chief (and other 365 owners),
look into a product called ”Magguts.” It is a spring kit that changes the 10 round magazine to a 12, and a 12 to a 14 with a virtually unnoticeable change in magazine length. (Different kits).
An even better benefit is that it makes the magazine easier to load, which is worth the price of admission alone!

OZ

 

[max]

My 365 is my EDC, but I doubt I will ever get that many rounds through it.

 

[THE PILGRIM]

Long Time Revolver Guy here-
And I have 2-365s.
365X and a 365X Macro.
Also problem Free.

 

[diyj98]

P-11 introduced in 1995. I remembered incorrectly when I stated it was smaller. The P11 is 0.2 of an inch longer aka the same length as the Springfield Hellcat.

That post brought back some bad memories. I ordered two of the stainless P11’s when they were first introduced. Both had numerous failure to fires. I contacted Kel Tec and was told that they just needed to be broken in. They were junk, although they may have improved with later production guns.

 

[Cotis]

I was a very early adopter of the Sig 365, purchased one within a month of them being released. Some of the early ones suffered broken firing pins from primer drag depending on the ammunition used. Sig recontoured the firing pin to address the issue (a turned radius instead of a hard shoulder) along with a profile change to the rear of the firing pin hole.

Chief38, did your parts replacement include this component? Maybe it was part of the striker assembly?

I carry a newer 365 with the manual safety, very happy with it. I need to shoot it more than I do just for more practice.

 

[ladder13]

Another early adopter, never an issue. A forum friend showed me his one day and I fell in love.
I have never looked back.