Sig Sauer Wins US Pistol contract
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No one else in the world deploys with a 45 ACP so it makes very little logistical sense to pick that caliber. The role of the pistol in modern combat is not a large roll. Capacity it king caliber is almost meaningless. IMHO
Yes! It is removeable. You can take it out of one grip module and place it in another. 9mm, 40 S&W & .357 Sig all are interchangeable.
45 ACP is dimensionally different so it can only be used in other 45 ACP frames. While the other can move from one frame to another.
They sell caliber exchange kits. There are 3 different configurations. Fullsize, Compact and sub-compact. You can get small, medium or large grip/frames as well.
It was the only true modular pistol in the trials. IMHO the RFP was written for them to win.
True enough, I suppose.
But allow me to introduce myself. I believe I am the only person in the world who is not over-the-top impressed with the Sig P320/P320c.
And I admit... it's kinda cool being so unique. 
Might just be a negative reaction on my part to all the hype and unbridled adoration. Or it might be that the one I tried just wasn't the very best example (although the owner said it was). Or it might be that the whole modular pistol thing doesn't make nearly as much sense to me as it makes to others, including our oh so modern "all-inclusive" army. Or it might be that the cost doesn't seem to be justified compared to other similar 9mm plastic pistols. Or it might be that the "look" of the gun does absolutely nothing for me. It's about the most boring looking plastic gun since the P250.
Oh, wait. In fairness, there aren't a lot of modern plastic 9mm pistols that impress me, including the new S&W M2.0. Also in fairness, the P320c *is* on my 2017 Possibilities List, albeit in last place with a note attached that simply asks: "Why"?
I expect it to get deferred into at least 2018 or later. 
I think I'll stick with my trusty P226 and my brand new P229.
I'm as old as the hills, so maybe 1980's technology just suits me better. 44wheelman
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Dont worry TTSH, you're not the only one not in love with a striker fired plastic fantastic 9mm. I had a sig 250 for a while, just didn't do anything for me, I'll stick to the old outdated metal framed P series as well. And while I like the 357 sig cartridge, and think it'd be a better choice.... just cant see it bucking the whole global commitment to the 9mm.
I prefer the older P series guns. The P228 being my favorite Sig of all time but as a plastic pistol the P320 is pretty good. I personally like it. I have a full sized in 45 and am looking to get a Compact 9mm in 2017. Although I might end p with a CZ Poly instead.
Street price on the P320 is no better or worse than most other striker fired guns, and generally less than a Glock. Most of those P320s also have night sights on them.
My problem with the P320 hovers around the grip frame. It's OK, but nothing special. That seems to be fixed now that we're getting the P320 XFive and X Carry.
The hard part is do I go with one of those, or do I do the P320 RX that comes with raised suppressor night sights and a red dot pre-installed and zeroed and buy the X Series frame?
Something else exciting about this is since the polymer shell is not a gun, how many aftermarket grip frame are people going to make for the next US service pistol? All you need is a 3D Printer with the correct holes and internal dimensions and you could go 1911, Browning Hi Power, or Glock if you're one of those odd people that love the Glock grip.
This is going to be interesting.
My problem with the P320 hovers around the grip frame. It's OK, but nothing special. That seems to be fixed now that we're getting the P320 XFive and X Carry.
The hard part is do I go with one of those, or do I do the P320 RX that comes with raised suppressor night sights and a red dot pre-installed and zeroed and buy the X Series frame?
Something else exciting about this is since the polymer shell is not a gun, how many aftermarket grip frame are people going to make for the next US service pistol? All you need is a 3D Printer with the correct holes and internal dimensions and you could go 1911, Browning Hi Power, or Glock if you're one of those odd people that love the Glock grip.
This is going to be interesting.
Street price on the P320 is no better or worse than most other striker fired guns, and generally less than a Glock. Most of those P320s also have night sights on them.
My problem with the P320 hovers around the grip frame. It's OK, but nothing special. That seems to be fixed now that we're getting the P320 XFive and X Carry.
The hard part is do I go with one of those, or do I do the P320 RX that comes with raised suppressor night sights and a red dot pre-installed and zeroed and buy the X Series frame?
Something else exciting about this is since the polymer shell is not a gun, how many aftermarket grip frame are people going to make for the next US service pistol? All you need is a 3D Printer with the correct holes and internal dimensions and you could go 1911, Browning Hi Power, or Glock if you're one of those odd people that love the Glock grip.
This is going to be interesting.
You are not going to see large scale production of poly shells using the Sig control module, I am sure they have patent enough of it to prevent that. On a one off scale maybe but at that point who really cares.
The P320 X-5 is the new name for the Vaporware P320 Target they announced last year. It will be interesting to see if it makes it to market in 2017.
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Arik
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Guys, it's not supposed to impress YOU! It's not there to BE IN LOVE WITH! Seriously. It's a tool for a job. That is it. That is it's only reason to exist. Put holes in bad guys. It's not to impress your friends at BBQ or make you feel good about yourself.
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Let me put it this way: It would be a perfectly fine disposable plastic gun at a street price point of, say, $400. Instead, it's going for $600 up here. Maybe that's the part I'm least impressed with.
But admittedly, plastic is not my thing. 
Time will tell whether this was a good decision for the Army or a dubious one. Too bad that we may have to wait another 30 years to hear that their choice (yet again) was less than great.
I'll be long dead and gone so it won't much matter to me.
Pretty sure it will since they've got a TALO Exclusive Gun they're advertising. TALO hates vaporware guns. It hurts the bottom line.
And if Lone Wolf can make a Glock replacement frame with a serial number, why can't others do the same thing for a piece that has no serial number, can be purchased for under what it costs some people to make grips? You don't see Sig go after folks that make grips for their products, however if you do have a problem, you'd better hope it does the same thing in a factory frame if you want Sig to fix it. I can see competition shooters trying things like that.
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$600 is in your area. Here they are around $450. But you can't base any of this on what the federal government does. They don't have mag restrictions or approved lists. They don't need gun stores or pay background check fees. None of that. Like I said, you gotta look at it for what's its meant for. It's meant to be a weapon for the Army.Let me put it this way: It would be a perfectly fine disposable plastic gun at a street price point of, say, $400. Instead, it's going for $600 up here. Maybe that's the part I'm least impressed with.
Time will tell whether this was a good decision for the Army or a dubious one. Too bad that we may have to wait another 30 years to hear that their choice (yet again) was less than great.
I'll be long dead and gone so it won't much matter to me.
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Let me put it this way: It would be a perfectly fine disposable plastic gun at a street price point of, say, $400. Instead, it's going for $600 up here. Maybe that's the part I'm least impressed with.
Time will tell whether this was a good decision for the Army or a dubious one. Too bad that we may have to wait another 30 years to hear that their choice (yet again) was less than great.
I'll be long dead and gone so it won't much matter to me.
Your pricing is not reflective of the rest of country. They sell for under $500 in various configurations with contrast sights and with night sights $525-$550 in most markets.
There was a time they were $450 with night sights.
Then I stand corrected gentlemen. Thank you for pointing that out. In my loony moonbat state, $599 is considered a great price for a MA-Compliant P320c... and at that price every shop I'm aware of is sold out.
$450 I could almost live with.
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I am sure the Sig will be a fine sidearm, but I never knew why the 1911 45 was ever faced out in the first place.
We had them when I was in, and never had any problems.
When you see how many Company's off the 1911 platform now, look's to me to be an easy choice.
Thank you,
We had them when I was in, and never had any problems.
When you see how many Company's off the 1911 platform now, look's to me to be an easy choice.
Thank you,
zzzippper
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They haven't announced caliber yet which I find surprising.
The Army will get the gravy. The other services will suck hind tit.
An Army LTC that I deployed to Iraq with told me several years ago that he thought the 320 would be the choice. He had previously worked in Army small arms development and now works for Remington.
I never did like the Berreta, I herd from a Military source that there was pressure from State Dept. to adopt the 92. I find it
sad that a American company can't come up with a winner in
these trails. The Sigs are quality pieces no doubt. Any combat
side arm should have visible hammer.
sad that a American company can't come up with a winner in
these trails. The Sigs are quality pieces no doubt. Any combat
side arm should have visible hammer.
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