Sigma Shoots Low & Left On Target

[paracharlie]

The Sigma is a very accurate pistol. Matter in fact, most pistols are very accurate with some variables tossed in of course, but generally this is true. Ninety percent of the time it is the shooter. Shooting accurately is like playing a guitar. You have to build your foundation first then play a melody. Those targets up above are very accurate. I would recommend everyone use those.
When I was in the Marine Corp we spent countless hours snapping in. That is dry firing our weapons. This served the purpose of building muscle memory and is a great way to build good trigger control, sight alignment and sight picture. Find your foundation and practice, practice, practice. Generally you can dry fire any centerfire design with exception to some older revolvers that had the firing pin on the hammer. Those could break or bend and were expensive to replace is all. There is no more wear and tear to a firing pin with or without ammo. Those snap caps are good for practice but not needed.
If you can't get beyond shooting low and to the left try different foundations.
For instance:
Cross thumbs or stack thumbs.
Instead of wrapping both hands try resting shooting hand ontop of palm of other hand. You might be squeezing with offhand!
Do not or do squeeze trigger with fingerprint, try using crease between joint.
Let up on your grip and squeeze with one finger, let pistol complete its recoil. Like holding an archery bow with your forefinger and thumb but do not let pistol squirm in your hand. Make sure weapon is aligned with your forearm. A good foundation is key.
Or, increase squeeze. Generally squeezing causes poor control as the the hand tends to follow the forefinger, relax and breath. Dry firing will reveal this.
When you become better, try doing different advanced things like breathing hard or doing jumping jacks to build up your heart rate before you fire. (in civilian terms I guess this would simulate SHTF moment).
Once again, practice, practice, practice.
Stay away from the cool matrix double, triple tap, upside down, side ways, Anni Oakley bull**** at first and build your foundation. Put three rounds in your magazines and find where your group is, then continue to practice some more.
At 7 meters I can set 3 rounds in a 3 inch group. Which is a great heart shot. I'm happy with that and thats all that matters to me.

Last but not least and most important of all. Relax and do not fear or anticipate the loud bang. Refrain from flinching, closing your eyes, breath, relax and breath some more. Let out your breath half way and trigger should be at the release point, bang! Breath some more.
Then when you get good, then you can start tapping like matrix.
(Dont mean to be sarcastic, just humorous)

 

[ginsu]

Sigma stuff.

I would tend to agree, a new pistol, it's one of those 'common' problems folks have- snatching, pulling instead fo squeezing, the muzzle takes a lefthanddive. Even after learning with one pistol, I had the same problem with my next. Think it just comes naturally. Regardless, I'd wait, shoot plenty of rounds THEN consider adjusting sights.

Hi Chuck , new here and new to shooting , just one year so far bought 2 guns so far sigma 9 and ruger lcp . I found myself doing the same low/ left with my sigma Im glad to find this on the gun in the forum . I guess I can learn a lot of usefull info here. Oh also the trigger pull was lightened up some, feels better than factory. Love the gun and the price did not break the bank either.I thought it was time to buy some guns due to the way thing are going here in our home lands latley. Its funny Im 53 and just bought my first guns. Thanks Chuck.

 

[ginsu]

shooting

good stuff for you .

 

[Jamie]

I have to make sure I'm pulling straight back with the trigger on the end pad of my finger and NOT into the first joint or I'll always shoot low left.

I found just the opposite, if I dry fire it, put the muzzle right up against a spot on the wall, within an inch or so, using the pad of my finger the muzzle would twitch just about every time. Using the 'power crease' as Ayoob calls it, the joint, the muzzle was dead on, no twitch. To the OP, try this, see what works for you. I think we all agree for a right hand shooter, low-left is trigger control.

 

[Delos]

My first revolver instructor was one of these irritatingly wonderful people who would have us leave one chamber in the cylinder unloaded (had us put a fired shell in it). While shooting, when we snapped on that he would say ah-ha you pulled it downward (or whatever).

Got past all that by dry fire, practicing trying to pull trigger a little to the right while squeezing. Then trying to push finger a little to the left while squeezing so front sight snaps to left. Then get the front sight to snap upward, then not.

I found that the extended (longer) revolver grips on one little J frame that is rounded inward at bottom is bad for me. Tightening just a little on little finger, or two littlest fingers, when squeezing trigger rocks it inward, at bottom, in my hand pulling barrel downward.

Then I noticed that outdoors, the time of day made a difference. Which side of sights the sun was on, particularly with stainless, was important. When out in the wild you can turn and try both directions to see if you hit on different sides of that tin can.

My brother passed me up when he was teaching his son to shoot a CO2 pellet pistol revolver. And he had bought the varilux progressive eye glasses that are like trifocals without the lines. Easier for some to see front sight.

Shooting pellet pistol in my basement - again which side was the light bulb on. Or do I just need to hood the front sight? Maybe florescent?

Finally I found that the modern 3 dot sights work for me all day and into dusk. Putting left hand fingers in front of right, and putting downward pressure against them, (left index finger against bottom of trigger guard) locks me up good also. Naturally thumbs side by side away from hammer (or away from slide on semi-autos).

I heard a story about an old retired policeman that always carried a revolver and always, when shooting single action, cocked with his left thumb then crossed his thumbs behind hammer. When he tried his fist glock he damaged his left thumb really bad when the slide came back.