cshoff
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The first post in this thread that has made any sense at all. Congrats to you!
Sigma trigger fix
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The first post in this thread that has made any sense at all. Congrats to you!
Thanks when It comes to firearms other than making some custom wood grips; I leave the Gunsmithing to the ones I trust or the ones who made it in the 1st place. With Sigma's none of my regular boys wanted to touch it so I called S&W and they made it right.
cshoff
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Gunsmithing and making reasonable mods are fine with me, but chopping up factory springs, or blatantly removing them altogether is just negligent. For Christ sake, some of these people are replacing springs in their guns with springs from a freaking ball point pen!
If you ever have to go in front of a judge and jury because of your involvement in a shooting, you will immediately be viewed as a negligent person for having played shade tree mechanic with your firearm. And any prosecuting attorney with half a brain will make damn sure to point it out.
These people that don't like the triggers on the Sigma need to do one of three things; 1. learn better trigger contol, 2. send the firearm back to S&W to have any trigger lightening performed, or 3. get rid of their Sigma and get something else that doesn't require as much skill to operate.
Walthernut
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I sent my .40 back to S&W and they did a great job on the trigger. I don't have a gauge but I'll have to say it's about 200% better. The warranty stays in effect, it's safe and who could ask for any thing more.
sigma 9 & 40
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I sent my 40GVE and 9VE to Smith and they are much smoother and just feel lighter. My complaint before was not that it was too hard but it felt gritty. My wife has not problem with the 9ve at all. Its her favorite gun.
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This sounds like a great fix. Better than just pulling parts out. Did S&W charge for the fix?
Thanks
scottaschultz
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I can't answer for anyone else, but LSG paid for shipping both ways and the work was done at not charge. I sent mine in on a Saturday and got it back the following Thursday. To top it off, Frank apologized for taking so long!
Scott
Walthernut
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I've had my SW40VE for less than a month and have sent 300 rounds through it. Grant it you all have shot guns a lot more than I've shot mine but I gotta admit, I like how it shoots and the trigger pull is not an issue with me. Maybe I'm the odd duck here.
Lifetime shotgun/rifle owner. Recently purchased first handgun - Sigma 40, primarily for self defense. Wanted to get A Sig but couldn’t find the model I wanted either used or new. Big run on guns in CA. Wasn’t comfortable buying sight unseen. Since I only plan on shooting it occasionally and in dire emergencies, I decided to split gun budget between 17HMR and the Sigma. I read all up about the trigger issues and the fixes before purchasing. So, I knew what I was getting into. Dry fired it 300 + times before taking it to the range and ran 50 rounds through it with my wife. Her complaint, along with everyone else is the heavy trigger. Called authorized S&W Warranty Company, LSG MGFT and they gave me a FEDEX billing number just like all the posts said without any cost to me. Lady I spoke with said they would be able to reduce pull 40-50%. That has to be better than the 12lbs I was registering with my rigged up fish scale. Okay don’t laugh all those who think they can measure the pull with their finger. My 10/22 (with a Cabela’s trigger kit) was 1.5lbs. Marlin 917 17HMR was popping at 4lbs. So I had some general base line information to assess my trigger pull situation. Received my Sigma today with the trigger “fixed.” It seemed better. Of course the first pull of a well rested finger is not a good judge. I put the scale on it again and it was popping between 11.5 and 12 pounds. I was very disappointed. I called and talked to Frank. He said he did everything he could to reduce the friction. He said I was the first to complain in over 1000 “fixes.” I asked him what reading he got when he scaled it. He doesn’t have time to measure the trigger pull. What, it takes all of 30 seconds. Not really sure he even has one. Besides he said his finger is his rule of measure. Frank seemed like a nice guy. Not trying to diss him. He offered to cover the shipping to look at again. He recommended trading it in for another S&W model (MP?) if I want a gun with a lighter pull. I thought I would try LSG before resorting to plan B adjustments. The cynic in me wonders if those posts about LSG fix might have come from someone who would financially benefit. Then again, not to hurt any feelings, some woman have been led to believe (by men) that 3 inches is really 6 inches. Unless you measure it you really don’t know. I will send some more rounds through it before taking any action. So all you guys resist the temptation of saying pull “feels like …”
TNDixieGirl
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I totally agree with that. The Sigma has a long, hard pull and thats how it's made, on purpose.
cshoff
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So let me get this straight; you researched the Sigma before you bought it. You knew they had a heavy trigger pull by design. Now you have one and you are not happy with it.
Huh?
What did you expect Frank at LSG to do with it? Frank cannot remove factory springs, he can only insure that the pistol and it's trigger group parts meet the design specs (something that a fair amount that come off of a mass-production assembly line probably don't do).
Like I said earlier in this thread, people that don't like the triggers on the Sigma need to do one of two things; 1. learn better trigger contol, or 2. get rid of their Sigma and get something else that doesn't require as much skill to operate. Playing shade-tree mechanic with it's internal parts is the last thing you want to do with a gun that is going to be used for personal protection.
I didn't say I wasn't happy. I was dissapointed by the unrealistic expectations I had with information obtained through this forum. Live and learn. I recommend never buying a gun you haven't shot. I suppose that would be one lesson learned from this purchase.
cshoff
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Sometimes, it's just not possible to shoot a gun prior to buying it. I know I have bought a few under those circumstances.
My advice to you would be to give it a little time, shoot your new Sigma a bit, and you will probably learn to "like" the trigger the way it is. One thing is for sure, they are a very reliable handgun, and they will generally feed, fire, and eject just about any brand and type of ammo you care to use.
Hi, I am new on here. I too bought the sigma 40 cal. about a month ago, I have put varies brands through it, to around about 200 rounds. the trigger feels fine to me. I was in the army as a calvary scout back 16 years ago just a kid then and our 45's were about a 12 pull on the trig. So from moment one it felt normal to me, I tried dry firing a several different guns at the place I bought it, a hair trigger may be fine for some but not for me. So just wanted to say I am happy with mine without any adjustments.
I too am a new Sigma owner and I must say I love the gun and how it shoots. The trigger pull is not an issue, and with the gun I have already, flawlessly, sent 700 rounds through it. I bought my Sigma 40 on 3/5/09.
SAMPO
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This topic has been beat to all hell... If the trigger pull is that much of an issue send it back to S&W and see what they can do. It is really the safest option, but stop taking springs and stuff out and sanding this and that...all you're doing is setting yourself up for a malfunction.
Frank Smith fixed my Sigma VE40 trigger and it is great. Sorry if your experience differed.
Here is the Thread
http://smith-wessonforum.com/e...0103904/m/8041024533
Here is the Thread
http://smith-wessonforum.com/e...0103904/m/8041024533
Exactly the point, I am beginning to think that with the divided groups( those who can live with the trigger and those who cant) maybe the cants need to go with the M&P and leave the sigma to the the cans. Its not rocket science. and to the cants that cant afford the M&P, then what do you expect? not trying to be rude but every one of the cants just keep bashing the trigger thing into the ground.
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