kmonroe99
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I'm looking for ideas for a more current 22 pistol similar to the old Beretta 71. The key features are small, external safety, easy rack.
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I would vote Ruger SR22 (small), or LCP (really small).
THE PILGRIM
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A while back I traded for a Beretta Model 70s, which I hear is similar to a Berreta 71 but with Steel Frame.
I was surprised at how much I like it!
So then I bought a Beretta 21a Mouse Gun, then a Walther PPK/S.
The 70s is a good Shooter. Getting Magazines is a challenge.
The 21a works well if clean, finicky on Ammo.
The Walther might be a good choice for you.
My only hit against it is the Double Action Trigger Pull. It is HEAVY!
I was surprised at how much I like it!
So then I bought a Beretta 21a Mouse Gun, then a Walther PPK/S.
The 70s is a good Shooter. Getting Magazines is a challenge.
The 21a works well if clean, finicky on Ammo.
The Walther might be a good choice for you.
My only hit against it is the Double Action Trigger Pull. It is HEAVY!
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Pisgah
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Bersa Thunder .22. The trigger is far superior to that of the Walther, and it has a steel slide versus zinc for the .22 Walther PPK of today (even the "stainless" version is nickel-plated zinc). Excellent accuracy and reliability, and affordable.
kwill1911
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I'm curious: what's wrong with the Beretta? Newer isn't necessarily better.
My wife has very severe RA in her hands and the 71 fits her pretty nicely. She's practicing holding it and trying to develop her version of a 2-handed grip. She can't rack the slide but I can rack it and lock the safety.
kwill1911
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Excellent! So, get another one. They're cheap and reliable. I have several small .22 autos, including the vaunted Walther. The Beretta is the best of the bunch, IMO.
I would have mentioned others but the 70 is single action, that's why I said browning 1911. The Browning it is the closet new production, action wise and to your specs, very reliable too. I do have a 71 and and 87. The 87 is the best of the best.
Skeptic 9c
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I've examined a couple of the Browning 380s. I did not like the fit and finish for the price.
Geoff
Who notes it was about double the price of a Ruger, before the crisis.
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sigp220.45
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I have the Model 87 Beretta and it is the easiest-to-rack pistol I own. Accurate and reliable, too.
Look at the Walther P22, very easy to rack, DA/SA operation, 3.5 inch barrel, ambi safety, comes with extra backstraps and changeable height front sights, rear sight is adjustable,10 shot capacity.
It is small, I believe 85% size of a S&W / Walther 99.
It is small, I believe 85% size of a S&W / Walther 99.
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Darkenfast
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Lately, I've had a chance to handle (but not shoot, yet), a Taurus TX 22. It might be a little too big for your needs, but it has a nice ambidextrous safety, decent sights, is EASY to rack, has a 16-round magazine, and around my area, it goes for $250. Weighs just over 17 oz. Reviews run pretty positive. I see it as a 21st century Kit Gun.
I bought a new PPKS and am impressed. Have already bought and received the adaptor for my Sparrow can. Two magazines on the way, great fun shooter. As Pilgrim noted the DA is heavy, but I load and shoot without dropping the hammer. My Beretta 72 is also a great shooter but the mags are unobtainium, no threaded barrel either. TX 22 is a fine shooter also, thousands of rounds through mine.
The Walther P22 has my vote too. I own 5 of them. I use them to teach beginners handgun shooting. The rear sight is fragile if dropped but so far Walther has replaced them under warranty. For your own fun, they are easily and cheaply adapted to a suppressor.
Skeptic 9c
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I have a Walther P22 Military (came with 2 mags and the frame is green, slide black) Walther has recently improved the pistol with a hammer drop safety (much safer) and a captive recoil spring. I just ordered a captive recoil spring from the aftermarket. According to reviews, <taking grain of salt> it improves performance, accuracy, makes the pistol more ammo tolerant, brings world peace and makes the pistol blessed by multiple deities.
One old fellow of my acquaintance likes the old, non-drop safety. His arthritis makes it difficult to pull the double action of the new QD model.
Geoff
Who will see and report what happens.
One old fellow of my acquaintance likes the old, non-drop safety. His arthritis makes it difficult to pull the double action of the new QD model.
Geoff
Who will see and report what happens.
If you are looking for a new pistol that is "similar to" the Beretta Model 71 in terms of overall size, shape and layout in .22 LR, there's really only one option at present.
I bought a PPK/S .22LR several years ago with low expectations and was pleasantly surprised. It actually shoots as well as my Walther PP in .22 LR. it's almost as accurate, but is more reliable in general and far more reliable with 9 or 10 rounds in the magazine.
It also compares well to the Beretta 71. It's just as accurate and just as reliable. It is however slightly heavier given that the Beretta 71 uses an aluminum frame, and the PPK/S .22 LR DA trigger pull is a bit heavier than the typically heavy PP series DA trigger, but the SA trigger is fine.
My PPK/S .22 LR is also a better shooter than my FEG made, KBI imported SMC in .22 LR in terms of accuracy and reliability.
I bought a PPK/S .22LR several years ago with low expectations and was pleasantly surprised. It actually shoots as well as my Walther PP in .22 LR. it's almost as accurate, but is more reliable in general and far more reliable with 9 or 10 rounds in the magazine.
It also compares well to the Beretta 71. It's just as accurate and just as reliable. It is however slightly heavier given that the Beretta 71 uses an aluminum frame, and the PPK/S .22 LR DA trigger pull is a bit heavier than the typically heavy PP series DA trigger, but the SA trigger is fine.
My PPK/S .22 LR is also a better shooter than my FEG made, KBI imported SMC in .22 LR in terms of accuracy and reliability.
THE PILGRIM
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