Small of Back holster

[porschelover86$]

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Good morning.
I hope this opens. I have been asking about an Small of Back holster that has the pistol handle in this position,#1, but with usual and customary Small of Back cant. #2
I hope this makes sense!
As I have never seen one, but see this position often when tucking the pistol into the waistband. I need input/opinions as to the efficacy of this position.
I am considering an SW 19-5, .38 special 642 or a Glock 23.
Contact: [email protected]

Thank you
Le

 

[Chromedhearts]

*** holster

By position, I understand that to mean grip to the right. Whereas the holster pictured hold the pistol grip to the left.
Grip to the right is sort of an extreme reach reverse cavalry draw and requires the pistol to be twisted as it’s drawn. In doing so, it’s easy to “sweep” the body with the muzzle as you draw.
I know people do it but it’s generally considered awkward and a little unsafe. A “left handed” *** holster would do it.
I apologize if I misunderstood the question
I just realized; this would be better asked in the “Holster Forum”

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[porschelover86$]

HOLSTER FORUM

How do I get to the holster forum?

 

[crazyphil]

This is the holster forum.

 

[Chromedhearts]

It got moved apparently


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[s&wchad]

If I understand correctly, you want a radically canted right hand small-of-the-back holster with the grip down.

A left hand crossdraw holster would accomplish this, but I doubt you would like it. Seems to me it would be awkward/uncomfortable when seated and the grip would print like crazy when standing. The idea of a s-o-b holster is to have grip (the hardest part to conceal) tucked into the small of your back. Your concept would position the grip on top of you right cheek and the curve of your lower back would cause the butt of the gun to stick out.

I'm not a fan of s-o-b holsters. They might be OK if you're on your feet all day, behind the counter of a gun shop. As Iggy said, even conventional ones can be bad for your back when seated and you can injure your spine if you happen to fall on it.

 

[ColbyBruce]

As Iggy said, small of the back holsters are difficult to draw from and even more difficult to re-holster the firearm; especially when worn centered. A lot of users wear this type of holster off-center for those reasons. I have only seen two that were built with a reverse draw, or butt first, as you describe. They were custom made and the maker is long gone.

While everybody has a horror story about someone becoming a paraplegic due to an injury while wearing a small of the back holster I personally believe it to be a myth. My wife worked eight years at a neuro rehabilitation center here in Georgia and never had a patient with such an injury. If such an injury had been incurred by a person in the southeast they would of come through the center for treatment.

I use a Galco for a Glock 17/19 for hiking and fishing around home, though I carry a Glock 31 or 32. It is convenient to wear when riding my four wheeler. I had one when I owned a Walther PPK/s. This type of holster is not for everyone and I would encourage you to buy a used holster to try first before you have one custom made.

 

[crazyphil]

Not a lot of support here for your idea. I tried it once for about 15
minutes and gave it up. Best advice would be to think of another
way to carry. The "Cavalry draw" hasn't been very popular for over
a hundred years.

 

[crstrode]

I have used a left-handed IWB with a thumb break as a small of back holster for years. Specifically, a Bianchi #5CL labeled for the S&W Chief. I find a right hand draw with the grip pointed to the right easier than the traditional orientation. It might just be me, but I can wear this setup standing, walking, working, driving, sitting, etc. for long periods with comfort.

The shape of my car seats may be fortuitous, however that fortune has manifested itself in a Mercury Grand Marquis, an old Ford F-250 pickup, a Nissan Murano, a Land Rover Discovery and an old Ford Thunderbird. Guns I've use this rig for are a Charter Arms Undercover, and Taurus 85. The 85 is so close to the size and shape of a model 36 as to be a genetic twin.

This specific holster has a steel belt clip that makes it a very simple matter to don and doff. If I get into a chair that is not just right it is an easy matter to slide it one way or the other to find the sweet spot. Similarly, it is very quick and easy to remove the whole works if the need to enter a no-go zone arises.

By the way - those are stock photos. Mine is not nearly as pretty since it is stained and dull from decades of use while working in the yard, driving a tractor, sitting in an office chair, and (of course) catching fish from a small boat.

I just found a photo of the holster in use . . . please excuse the flabby 65 year old geezer under the belt.

 

[MetalMan]

I have one for my Kimber Ultra Carry.

It’s a well made holster by KC Gunleather (the late-Ken Campbell).

As I get older, I find myself carrying the Kimber IWB in a Milt Sparks VMII rather than $OB.

 

[chief38]

Probably dangerous if one fell on to their back with pistol located there. Unless you stand most of the time I can't believe it would be very comfortable either. Has to be very uncomfortable when driving I'd think.

 

[target tech]

One of the few holsters I ever got rid of was a Galco ***. I got it when I bought my 640 back in the mid 90s. I found it was impossible to sit and drive with the thing on. And a friend told me It prints really bad if I bent over, even with a heavy flannel shirt on.....So it went away.

 

[rednichols]

An holstorical catchup on small-of-back holsters, none of which will much help the OP .

The style originated with a television show of the 1950s called Tightrope; here are the two basic styles that were marketed as capgun holsters (whoops, I doubled up on the version with the cylinder pocket and left out the one without it):





Rick Gallagher at Jackass (he told me personally he named the company after himself) now known as Galco, later claimed to have 'invented' the style. At the time the TV show appeared in 1959 he was 14 (b. 1945) and living in a Chicago suburb (he's a Capricorn like me, poor B.)

Worn properly it is simply an extreme tilt (60 degrees positive) below the kidney; no sweeping of the body takes place when the shooter unconsciously keeps the muzzle headed for the target.

Their purpose is extreme concealment from an open jacket. No maker pretends they won't print if one bends forward at the waist; when wearing one, one simply doesn't do that, because of knowing what will happen. Comfort -- might be worth the reduction in this for the right operative; otherwise, worn at the kidney at about 5:00 it's simply one position back from 4:00 with the FBI standard of 25 degrees positive; no reason for it to be uncomfortable in anything but bucket seats on a small sports car (so Bond used a shoulder holster).

Posters who have said it is not a dangerous position are, of course, correct; and it was nice to see at least some anecdotal evidence of that in one post .

I've designed many of them and during decades around the end of the 20th century they sold pretty well for their makers (I was only a designer then). Surprisingly well.

 

[rednichols]

Tightrope version, without the pocket, which I left out of my prior post: