Smith & Wesson Knife Sale

[ThemB's]

Big 5 has Smith & Wesson tactical knives(4 styles) that they retail at $59.99 on sale for $12 bucks. I got the SWEX2S

 

[ThemB's]

New week new deals, I just got a S&W H.R.T. folding knife. I also picked up a S&W Retro Clip Watch for $10 SWW-W-HF 13-SLV, and a S&W Galaxy 12 LED Flashlight not on sale for $29. 3 different models of the H.R.T. were on sale and 2 watch styles with multiple finishes, and also a double blue double sided S&W knife. Big5 has a large selection of S&W knives. Cant wait to see what will be on sale next week.

 

[opoefc]

Remember, you are supporting China when you buy these Chinese made "Taylor " knives from Big 5, Ebay, Flea Bay, etc. Non of them will letter as authorized S&W knives - S&W licenses Taylor to use the S&W logo & name, but does not sell the knives. China turns them out by the boat load, literaly. for a few cents each to dealers in the US, like Big 5, Smokey Mt. Knife Works, etc. That's not to say that the knives, as tools for knife uses, aren't worth the money and they are cheap enough to throw away when they break ( and they will) and buy another. There's no factory warranty, of course. Ed.

 

[smitholdtimer]

"S&W" Knives on sale

Thanks OPFC for pointing this out as many of us who do not appreciate being inundated with so many Chinese imported products may not have been aware, if we do not support the USA, no support will come from abroad!

 

[BillBingham2]

Are there any knives made these days with S&W here in the states?

B2

 

[CelticSire]

There's no factory warranty, of course. Ed.

Not true. Taylor Brands LLC (located in Kingsport, TN, an American Company owned and staffed by Americans) provides a limited lifetime warranty to the original owner on its products.

Taylor Brands LLC - Warranty

I have contacted Taylor Cutlery on three different occasions for parts for knives. Every time the parts were sent to me FREE of charge and at the company's cost. Didn't even pay shipping. True, they were small parts, i.e. fasteners, a spring, etc., but still - free, including shipping. Not too many "American" companies will do that. Supporting China? No, supporting an American company that employs Americans, pays American taxes, and stands behind its products.

 

[opoefc]

CelticSire, Don't be fooled. Where do you think Taylor gets most of it's knives? I just appraised a collection of S&W Taylor knives. Over 80% were marked "China" and had S&W logos. In my past discussions with Taylor people, none of them were bashful about admitting many of their knives are imports from China, either as complete knives or as parts to be assembled in the US. My post is not a put down of Taylor's business practices. If getting a free, made in China or elsewhere part, makes you happy with Taylor, I'm all for it. Remember Taylor pays S&W to use the logo and S&W is only interested in the cash flow from the licensing arrangement. Quanity, over quality, sometimes controls the situation. Ed.

 

[CelticSire]

I'm well aware of where the majority, if not all, of Taylor Cutlery's knives are made. My point was that the statement was made that there is no factory warranty, when in fact there is a limited lifetime warranty for the original owner. I also wished to point out that Taylor Cutlery is not a Chinese company, but an American one. To state that buying their products is "supporting China" is doing an American company a disservice. It is impossible in this day and age to eliminate foreign made products: unless, of course, you don't drive an automobile, live in a house, wear clothes, or eat anything that you don't grow yourself. I'm well aware of the quality of some of their products, and I'm also aware that I have several of their knives that have given me years of service under some rather rough conditions.

 

[Torakan]

I have contacted Taylor Cutlery on three different occasions for parts for knives. Every time the parts were sent to me FREE of charge and at the company's cost. Didn't even pay shipping. True, they were small parts, i.e. fasteners, a spring, etc., but still - free, including shipping. Not too many "American" companies will do that.

I would have to say in my experience all US based knife companies will do just that, so I'm not too impressed. Over the last 24 yrs of serving in the US Army I have used a lot of knives, but never had quality/warrenty issues from products from Buck, Spyderco, Cold Steel, Benchmade, or Gerber. I take that back, I did lose a clip screw on my Spyderco Police while in Baghdad in 2004. E-mailed Spyderco for a new screw and they sent me 10 screws and a new clip.

 

[CelticSire]

I would have to say in my experience all US based knife companies will do just that, so I'm not too impressed.

It was not an attempt to impress, it was an explanation refuting the statement that Taylor Cutlery does not offer any warranty on their products. I never compared them to other companies or discussed the relative quality when compared to other knives. I was simply stating facts based on personal experience. Gerber charged me retail price plus shipping to send me two fasteners for a knife while I was on my second tour in Iraq. And Buck may still be headquartered in the US, but more and more of their product is also being made in China.

 

[Maximumbob54]

My only S&W knife I bought was this:

Welcome To Super Knife Sale

And I can tell you it was such a piece of ick that I gave it away and felt bad for giving away such junk. I wanted to get it back and give them a better knife. The Winchester branded knives are no different. I also have a Browning branded knife that I'm surprised Browning will allow their logo on such trash. It took that many before it occurred to me that if it has a gun company logo on it then it is probably trash. Slow learner I guess. Want to buy a decent cheap US made knife then find a Buck. MOST of them are still US made.

 

[opoefc]

Celticsire, It may be a case of semantics. What I posted was " there is no factory warranty' - meaning the S&W factory does not warrant the Chinese made Taylor Cutlery knives. On this Forum the term "factory" always refers to the Smith & Wesson plant As far as I know, the "limited lifetime warranty" you mention is something that is provided by Taylor Cutlery, and that's not necessarily a bad thing, because as you say and I agree, Taylor Cutlery is an American company, but an American company that imports foreign products instead of making them here in the US, like Buck knives, etc. and then has the burden of warranting a cheap foreign product. Given the choice of whether to buy American or foreign products, I will always buy American. If enough of us do that, maybe our children will have the same choices. Good Luck. Ed.

 

[Torakan]

And Buck may still be headquartered in the US, but more and more of their product is also being made in China.

Actually, Buck stopped all off shore production of their knives in 2010. As the remaining china made stock is depleted it is being replaced with knives made in the US. That means the Bucklite Max series that retails under $25 is made in the USA by US workers and comes with a lifetime warrenty for the life of the product, not the orriginal owner.

 

[Rangel]

Some very big USA brand knife names associated with quality knives have started secondary lines, carying the same brand name along with another defining name, such as 'Fusion' to differentiate these lower quality, Chinese made knives. From what I've seen, the Taiwan made knives are typically better steel and better quality builds and there are still, as had been the casse for centuries, some incredibly fine knives coming out of Japan. What Solingen steel from Solingen City Germany, is to fine knive's steel, Seki steel, from Seki City, Japan is usually pretty good stuff also. I have some sweet knives from japan and USA made knives crafted with Seki steel.

Since we got so a-hole buddy tight with China and they got their hands on western machinery capable of much higher tolerances, don't be fooled--they can, and do make some really good quality stuff, including knives. They just make more money selling cheaply made ****, especially counterfiets. That said, I have seen some very good quality counterfiet 'knock offs' of knives orginally made by companies like Germany's Boker, among others.

I try not to buy Chinese stuff in general, and it's sad to see S&W allowing their name on Chinese made knives that in my opinion (I haven't seen them all) are of dubious quality. They're perfect for flea markets and that's where you see bunches.

The Chinese have even been faking US Morgan silver dollars that have the look (patina) of age--even going so far as to counterfiet just the more common dates so as not to attract 'too' much attention. At first you could tell with a magnet. The weight, look and feel were the same, but unlike real silver, they are, or 'were' magnetic. Not to get undone, they've switched to non magnetic alloy fake Morgans, and God knows what else.

Even in other Asian nations, including the impoverished Philippines, they sometimes round up all sorts of counterfiet things with German and USA, to name but 2 nations brand names on them, and invite the media to watch them destroy them.

As long as our markets allow, they will continue in such manner here.

 

[redbos]

I sent a Benchmade back to have the blade sharpened and clip replaced. I bought the knife when I was 19 or 20, I am now 36. I paid $5.00 for postage and got back a NEW knife, like brand new. And I have carried that same knife pretty much every day for 15 years....

 

[holo]

benchmade is a true blue company that stands behind all of there knives even if you are not the original owner a $5.00 bill will get you a complete factory going over and replacement.

 

[boatboy]

Sorry to be a wet blanket

But Knives are one of the best examples of you get what you pay for.Until you get to to the fancy stuff with the bedazzler.

You cant but knife 75% off and expect it to be a good value or heirloom

I collect quite a few knives but I have carried a Ken Onion Kershaw for years

The bad part of knife collecting if they really dont hold their value if you ever want to sell them.

So buy a good one to use and later give it to someone you value and who will value it

Hank

 

[EricInAZ]

Not sure why all the drama about warranties. You buy a $12 knife, and if you're enough of a knuckledragger to be able to abuse it to the point where it fails, then you go buy another $12 knife.

In my nearly 50 years of knife ownership, I've lost more than my share of pricey knives, but I've never actually been able to bring myself to abuse one enough to break one, cheap or expensive.

Now, some of these cheap-o Chinese knives have little screws holding them together. Frankly, it's your fault for not properly maintaining your gear if it falls apart.

I'd expect some kind of warranty with a $75 knife, but in my experience, wonder why it's necessary.

Sounds like you guys are all a buncha whiners & crybabies - you get what you pay for & if you abuse it, you suffer the consequences.

 

[Titegroups]

Some of those chinese made slipjoints are nice knives, if you don't own or haven't handled any give them a try. You'll be surprised. That being said I buy GEC's and Case knives also and use the china knives for rougher tasks.

 

[Blademan21]

To me a $12 knife is a wonder knife. If you loose it,you don't wonder where you lost it.