Yep an M. It looks like a brand and would be read "Circle Lazy M" because the M is on its side.
Smith & Wesson Model Pre Model 31
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Yep an M. It looks like a brand and would be read "Circle Lazy M" because the M is on its side.
Green Frog
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Maybe I’ve gotten it all out of perspective, but when I look at it from the perspective of being held in the hand, it seems more of a “Circle-Lazy-W” brand to me. Either way, it’s part of the guns own history and the gun is still a very interesting one, especially as a shooter and EDC.
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Froggie,
Good point! I don't know for sure which direction it should lay to be "lazy".
Good point! I don't know for sure which direction it should lay to be "lazy".
Froggie and Jim,
The only brand I can recall locally with a lazy letter is the 8 Lazy Y, from 1916 for cattle and horses. It's still in use.
On that one the top of the Y faces left (see photo).
Would be interesting to know where the gun was sold and check that state's brand records for a match.
The only brand I can recall locally with a lazy letter is the 8 Lazy Y, from 1916 for cattle and horses. It's still in use.
On that one the top of the Y faces left (see photo).
Would be interesting to know where the gun was sold and check that state's brand records for a match.
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The gun in the auction is post-WWII and round-butt, and incorrectly identified as a pre-31. Seller is in San Antonio TX.
I bid on it, thinking that for $127 I could overlook the molestation. Maybe ream it for .32 H&R, and have it hard-chromed for carry. Now that its over $300 I will pass.
I don't see an answer to the OP's question, about what is a pre model 31...
Up until the late 1950's S&W revolvers had names, not model numbers. Around 1957, they all got model numbers. For example the .32 Regulation Police became the Model 31, and the .32 Hand Ejector became the Model 30. When we look back at older guns without model numbers, we refer to them as "pre" the model that they became.
I bid on it, thinking that for $127 I could overlook the molestation. Maybe ream it for .32 H&R, and have it hard-chromed for carry. Now that its over $300 I will pass.
I don't see an answer to the OP's question, about what is a pre model 31...
Up until the late 1950's S&W revolvers had names, not model numbers. Around 1957, they all got model numbers. For example the .32 Regulation Police became the Model 31, and the .32 Hand Ejector became the Model 30. When we look back at older guns without model numbers, we refer to them as "pre" the model that they became.
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What ammo do you carry for defense?
Thanks, Pete
That's a common partial misstatement and one which perpetrates misuse or generic use of the term.
A Pre-Model is only a ‘named’ model that IMMEDIATELY PRECEDES when the company began the model ‘number’ stamping system, AND incorporates all of the SAME ENGINEERING DESIGN CHANGES of their model numbered counterparts.
It came about as a LABEL for differentiating between a gun that is stamped with a model # and one made before model #s were stamped, but was otherwise the identical gun.
Reference Pre Model relative to the OP's subject gun in post #5.
Relative to the OP's subject gun in post #12, those stocks won't match the gun #.
It finally dawned on me what looks wrong about them:
They appear to be Medium Hi Horn grips from the Bodyguard with the horn sanded down.
It finally dawned on me what looks wrong about them:
They appear to be Medium Hi Horn grips from the Bodyguard with the horn sanded down.
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Pete,
I get JHPs from Georgia Arms. My practice/range ammo is 100 gr LSWCs over a mid charge of Bullseye. At true self defense ranges, the POA/POI for both is close enough to be pretty much unnoticeable.
Froggie
Richard, I see that the gun sold ....did you buy it?? Looks like it went for a pretty fair price.
Best Regards, Les
Best Regards, Les
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