Smith & Wesson unedintified clone
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What are the barrel markings? (If any)
Sometimes the only way to identify a "clone" is from the grip panels, which this one is missing....
Sometimes the only way to identify a "clone" is from the grip panels, which this one is missing....
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About all I can say is that if the barrel markings don't say S&W, then it is not a S&W. Most American makers of similar top-break revolvers (H&R, IJ, etc.) stamped something on theirs. Without any stampings, it's probably from somewhere outside the USA. Or they have been buffed off during refinishing.
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Could be a Guisasola Hermanos. They seem to have made a great many S&W copies. I believe they were specifically mention in a lawsuit by Smith & Wesson.
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I agree with the above; Guisasola Hermanos. Very good copies and quality too.
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My dad has a similar one that was passed for. To him. The only markings are 44-40 and "Spain."
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At least according to "Pistols of the World", Guisasola Hermanos was only active in Eibar/Spain in the 1920s, and known for their copy of the S&W Military & Police. Their trademark (see attached) looks different from the fairly elaborate snake imagery on the OP's gun, too, which indicates an older manufacture.
There were so many arms makers in and around Eibar that it is difficult to pin many of these Spanish copies down. Nobody so far seems to have undertaken the effort to catalog all the trademarks. I believe one of the problems is that a lot of the records were lost in the chaos of the Spanish Civil War.
There were so many arms makers in and around Eibar that it is difficult to pin many of these Spanish copies down. Nobody so far seems to have undertaken the effort to catalog all the trademarks. I believe one of the problems is that a lot of the records were lost in the chaos of the Spanish Civil War.
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JSR III
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Welcome to the forum.
A larger close up photo of the marking would be helpful. Unfortunately by using a hosting site, I was unable to enlarge the photo.
Try using the MANAGE ATTACHMENTS button below any reply box and upload a photo directly from your computer. Or if that is not doable, try taking a closeup.
A larger close up photo of the marking would be helpful. Unfortunately by using a hosting site, I was unable to enlarge the photo.
Try using the MANAGE ATTACHMENTS button below any reply box and upload a photo directly from your computer. Or if that is not doable, try taking a closeup.
Absalom
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Here you go. For some reason, the pics in the OP's first post opened for me with no problem. Usually, I'm the one who can get nothing to work
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Absalom
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Very good. That would also explain the older model type of gun. That company was one of the larger arms makers in Eibar. In my list of gunmakers there from 1914 they are listed with 200 employees. The company was founded in 1848, and a descendent business seems to still operate, although not in guns. Like a lot of arms makers, in the mid-1920s they expanded their offerings to non-gun goods; GAC seems to have switched to bicycles and mopeds.
They built all kinds of pistols and revolver copies, and also the El Tigre copy of the Winchester 92.
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The frame stamping indeed is from Garate, Anitua y Cia. An interesting side note is that the same company produced many copies of the top break S&W .44 DA revolver chambered in .455 which the British purchased for their use during WWI. I have seen several of them.
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