Stirling
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Very interesting revolvers indeed. The nickel plated M28 looks fantastic. 
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I'll add some yadda, yadda, yadda. In bench rest rifle shooting it is well accepted that spinning bullets unnecessarily fast increases group size. Among cast bullet shooters it's generally accepted that best accuracy is achieved when cylinder throat diameter matches or is .00" over groove diameter. On both switching from S&W's rifling to Colt's makes no sense. However, experienced PPC champs may know better yadda, yadda, yadda than me.
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snubbiefan
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Yep.....gonna' try to figure out what it's really worth. I will not be surprised either way. Many of us here on the forum watched a 617ND 4-inch run up to $1300.00. Anything is possible and "somebody" out there just "has" to have a gun "just" like this one.
Bullseye Smith
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Why do they alway nickle the hammer and trigger, Dumb,dumb,dumb. Now days they just say you cut the value of a good Smith.
Remember, it's a custom revolver, that eliminates any cosmetic reason to keep parts as S&W made them. Nickeling the hammer and trigger might just have been what tickled the creator's fancy.
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Candyman
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I saw this at a gun show this past weekend. I took a couple of pics; the man selling it wouldn't let me take pics of it with the cylinder open.
I did look inside the cylinder, there was no ball detent. This gun is a 19-4 and serial started with 9Kxx or 7K can't remember. He wanted $1,500 for this. It is classified as a S&W because of the serial # or so he said.
He was not a private salesman as he was doing paperwork on the guns he sold. Personally, I don't care for these but if it were $200 I probably would have bought it just for the heck of it. ... my $0.02
I saw this at a gun show this past weekend. I took a couple of pics; the man selling it wouldn't let me take pics of it with the cylinder open.
I did look inside the cylinder, there was no ball detent. This gun is a 19-4 and serial started with 9Kxx or 7K can't remember. He wanted $1,500 for this. It is classified as a S&W because of the serial # or so he said.
He was not a private salesman as he was doing paperwork on the guns he sold. Personally, I don't care for these but if it were $200 I probably would have bought it just for the heck of it. ... my $0.02
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RIDE-RED 350r
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Wonder why? Was he worried about you capturing the serial # in the pic maybe??
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snubbiefan
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Maybe he had something else to hide. This one I have posted is a 28-2 and yes....everything but the grips is nickel plated....very well I may add.
I forget the old Indian's name in the Eastwood movie that had a big piece of hard candy. He told Clint it was not for eating....only looking through. Maybe this gun is not for shooting....only looking at.
I know it's worth $601 at the moment, but it will go back in the safe, or be used for trading stock if I can't do a good deal better than that. It draws a crowd around your table at the gun shows too, but nobody has pulled out any serious money yet. I hope we all learn something here whether I sell it or keep it. I learn something new just about every time I fire-up the forum.
I forget the old Indian's name in the Eastwood movie that had a big piece of hard candy. He told Clint it was not for eating....only looking through. Maybe this gun is not for shooting....only looking at.
I know it's worth $601 at the moment, but it will go back in the safe, or be used for trading stock if I can't do a good deal better than that. It draws a crowd around your table at the gun shows too, but nobody has pulled out any serious money yet. I hope we all learn something here whether I sell it or keep it. I learn something new just about every time I fire-up the forum.
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Candyman
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I'm pretty sure that is why. I can't remember anything out of the ordinary. Everything looked just like my 19-4 without the Python barrel.
I believe he just didn't want his serial # photographed and this is probably why b/c it would be here on this forum, maybe copied and put on other forums etc... if I had taken it
Duke426
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Every one of these conversions I've seen was done on a K-frame...that model 28 is too cool!!!
Personally, whether it's on a K or N frame, I think these revolvers are cool and I do get nostalgic about them.
Personally, whether it's on a K or N frame, I think these revolvers are cool and I do get nostalgic about them.
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snubbiefan
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BubbaBlades.....do your ejector-rods latch-up in the shroud? I have been thinking this thing did, but brother-n-law has it at the moment (in his safe of course) and for the life of me...I could not say how/if the ejector rod locked. I called him this afternoon and this rod DOES NOT LATCH in the shroud. I think this is a point worthy of mentioning. It could be the builder increased the strength of the center-pin spring to assist against it shooting-open, but it feels about as smooth as any other thumb-latch I have pushed on a 28.
What pro-n-con "turn" does that put on this discussion? The builder obviously decided it did not need to lock-up at the ejector rod.
What pro-n-con "turn" does that put on this discussion? The builder obviously decided it did not need to lock-up at the ejector rod.
jrm53
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I would never have thought that the Colt barrel shank was big enough to fit the N frame without being sleeved, it would be interesting to know the O.D of the .357 Python threads and the size of the N frame 36 TPI shank dia. Jeff
BubbaBlades
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As you can see in the picture, both the Smython and the Couger do not use the ejector rod to lock the cylinder into the frame.
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westcoast362
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Mine was made by Davis in Sacramento CA in the late 70's. The cylinder locks at the end of the ejector rod and it has a ball detent on the crane. It was made on a M28-2 and is finished in Armalloy or some sort of hard chrome.
Since in this thread Smython is more popular than Smolt, we obviously need a slithering replacement for Cougar. Rython? Rugython? Seriously, that’s one cool Security Six.
We now also have a Triple-Lock Smython, the most highly evolved snake species posted.
Has anyone installed a .22 Diamondback barrel on a S&W frame?
We now also have a Triple-Lock Smython, the most highly evolved snake species posted.
Has anyone installed a .22 Diamondback barrel on a S&W frame?
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hotrod150
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My first handgun was a blue 4" model 19 purchased in 1980 or 81. A friend of mine had a nickel Python, and I lusted over it and over the Smolt conversions I saw in gun magazines.
What a lot of people don't seem to realize or remember is that when the Smolt & Cougar conversions were popular, there were a helluva lot less choices in factory guns. No S&W 586/686, no round-butt N frames. No small serious-caliber semi-auto's exept for Detonics. I couldn't afford a Detonics so my second handgun was a Star PD. An outfit called ASP sold custom cut-down S&W model 39's, Tim LaFrance did the same thing with Star BM's. Something like a Kahr PM9 or Glock 26 would have sold like hotcakes. Custom was king because factory guns just couldn't meet people's needs (or at least their wants).
What a lot of people don't seem to realize or remember is that when the Smolt & Cougar conversions were popular, there were a helluva lot less choices in factory guns. No S&W 586/686, no round-butt N frames. No small serious-caliber semi-auto's exept for Detonics. I couldn't afford a Detonics so my second handgun was a Star PD. An outfit called ASP sold custom cut-down S&W model 39's, Tim LaFrance did the same thing with Star BM's. Something like a Kahr PM9 or Glock 26 would have sold like hotcakes. Custom was king because factory guns just couldn't meet people's needs (or at least their wants).
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