So how safe are all our school-goers with cell phones?

[YeshuaIsa53]

In light of the recent past, just how safe do we feel with our cell phones and computers? We've come a long way from truck bombs. Comments? Try to leave Lebanon and such out of this.
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My. there are a lot of users online playing with their keyboards now.

 

[steelslaver]

Unless someone intentionally disassembled the cellphone and placed a powerful explosive charge inside it before reassembling it they are safe from it exploding

 

[The Last Standing Knight]

ANYTHING can be used as a weapon....

The most dangerous weapon of all is human intellegence which can come up with these kinds of things.

Remember "The Anarchist Cookbook"?

Just like anything that is electronic and puts out a signal can be monitored.

 

[coltle6920]

So how safe are all our school-goers with cell phones?

Many pros and cons that come to my mind. A lot of videos get posted online of student violence. It can be violence against another student or in some cases a teacher. In any case it can serve to hold people accountable. In a situation like Sandy Hook cell phones can provide vital information in regards to where the perp is to local authorities and also where the students may be holed up. On the negative side cell phones can be a distraction to students getting the education they are there for.

Unfortunately we live in a Society where those in power think that a "one size fits all" solution is the answer to everything. It doesn't work with firearms and wont work with cell phones. Those that will survive are the ones that can think on their feet and adapt as things change.

If we're talking about cell phones being used as weapons are we to live in fear worrying about what might happen down the road? What can happen will eventually happen and there's nothing that can be done about it. For all the good that technology has done to make our lives easier there are those that will profit by using it against us. I will not be held hostage by those that wish us bad consequences.

Live your life like there's no tomorrow but be thankful when you get to see another sunrise.

 

[Pisgah]

Worried about cellphones and laptops in schools? Simple -- BAN THEM, as they should have been banned from the get-go. Never mind the risk of a bomb -- working as they should, they do nothing but distract from education, at best. But, do you know why my school district has not banned them? PARENTS WON'T STAND FOR IT! Or much of any other kind of discipline, unfortunately...

 

[Ivan the Butcher]

The only teens I know are my 5 oldest grandkids and a handful from church.

Cell phones are great things! Cell Phone are the scourge of the earth! Take you pick. But it is all in how they are used.

My grandkids (two different households) were 12 to 15 when they got them. They were given access in stages and when they were proven responsible, they were given more access.

The teens at church are a typical slice of the midwestern society the come from. About half do what they are told!

We had a local celebrity's daughter killed texting while driving about 8 years ago. The schools have been funded to push the Don't Text and Drive message. I think in general, Kids are behaving better than their parents with the Driving/Texting.

So, the Phone Issue boils down to: Stupid people do stupid things and get stupid results. Smart people do smart things and get smart results! If you watch them for some time, you will see what kind of people they are.

I didn't get a personal Cell Phone until 1999 (age 43), my kids got theirs at Collage age (or after they got out of the service). The grand kids are 12-15. (the younger ones don't take them to school!) The one thing someone needs to decide is; Are these "Tools or Toys"? My families are treating them like tools, but many are not!

Ivan

 

[peyton]

My wife is a high school teacher and her class rule is simple. "If I see you messing with your phone I confiscate it" !! She has a phone cubby, puts phone in it and second time it Mom or Dad has to come and get it!!
Does it help? Heck yes, the action is helping in class and little Jill and Jack have to find something else to do, like maybe pay attention.

 

[03hemi]

Unless they're a known terrorist they're probably good to go?

 

[steelslaver]

The problems aren't cause by cellphones, laptops, schools, the lack of the pledge or prayer in school. The problem is the lack of parenting or the complete lack of parents.

The parents are the ones who should provide, discipline, values in country, religion and education. Many of them do little or nothing and then wail about how the schools failed. How does the same school end up graduating 10 future prison residents and 4 Doctors? They were sent 10 feral kids and 4 with values and discipline.

My kids went to public schools all graduated and became productive members of society. My step daughters both graduated from public schools in the last 2 years, both were A students, one became a national merit scholar and an Eagle scout. One is in college beginning her study in medicine, the other is in her second year of Vo-tech, taking welding courses, while working 30 hours a week in a steel fab shop.

They both had cell phones and lap tops. Their friends all had cell phones and computers and graduated. I have meet them at cook outs in my back yard, at pot lucks at other parents houses, at scout meetings at camp outs my wife and I chaperoned, their Jazz band performances.

I heard all about global warming, trans genders, and other things. Little of it came from the school itself, most of it came from the internet and talk among their friends. Each got a serious discussions involving my wife and I and real life examples. If global warming worries you why do you want a ride to school when you could walk, why do you want a car. If you think we should treat illegals better, why don't we move some in and you can share your bedrooms, family room and money with them.

If you do not value education or have any values, or pass them on to your kids, they aren't going to get them at school, through a cell phone. TV or laptop. If you do have them and pass them along and reinforce them it is unlikely they will be ruined by cell phones and computers. If you haven't want to or the time to do these things with your kids, you never really had time to have kids in the first place

 

[THE PILGRIM]

The overall risk is related to - How clever is your adversary?
And - Where was your phone (device) manufactured?

 

[Alton]

My son is very Tech savvy. He punishes his kids by turning off their cell service when they get in trouble, also automatically after 10 pm. I swear my grand kids cry more with no cell phone than my kids did with a belt back in the day.

 

[GypsmJim]

Worried about cellphones and laptops in schools? Simple -- BAN THEM, as they should have been banned from the get-go. Never mind the risk of a bomb -- working as they should, they do nothing but distract from education, at best. But, do you know why my school district has not banned them? PARENTS WON'T STAND FOR IT! Or much of any other kind of discipline, unfortunately...

Ban cellphones....yes for sure.

Laptops....in my school system every kid gets one and most of the course work is on them. Using books are a rarity these days.

 

[GypsmJim]

My wife is a high school teacher and her class rule is simple. "If I see you messing with your phone I confiscate it" !! She has a phone cubby, puts phone in it and second time it Mom or Dad has to come and get it!!
Does it help? Heck yes, the action is helping in class and little Jill and Jack have to find something else to do, like maybe pay attention.

My wife teaches HS as well. If she did that she would probably lose her job and most likely our house would be picketed by the dumb kids' parents.

 

[Rob613]

Our governor has asked school boards to adopt cell phone free school policies. As it’s a distraction to learning and has negative impact on mental health.

My wife is a teacher and many classrooms do not allow cell phone use.

This is Montana though, a bit different than most of the country.

 

[venomballistics]

The attack pertained to the antiquated technology of pagers.... Rather elegant as these things go.
There's almost no reason to use a pager outside Hezbollah's attempt to dodge detection.
This stunt likely hit the mark with well north of 80% certainty.

 

[Super Trucker]

Worried about cellphones and laptops in schools? Simple -- BAN THEM, as they should have been banned from the get-go. Never mind the risk of a bomb -- working as they should, they do nothing but distract from education, at best. But, do you know why my school district has not banned them? PARENTS WON'T STAND FOR IT! Or much of any other kind of discipline, unfortunately...

Not so simple.

Some schools today provide laptops to kids, others make parents buy them, either way kind of short sighted to ban them.

My grandson is a type 1 diabetic and after reading a story about a young girl dieing from low blood sugar at a sleep over, my daughter got him a CGM and a cell phone.
A Constant Glucose Monitor works with either a receiver or cell phone. A receiver only shows results in that unit, so if volume is down nobody hear an alarm. A cell phone with internet connection allows the signal to be shared with up to 10 people, so my daughter and I know his sugar level at all times and can be at the school in 5 minutes or less, if we see his levels dropping without him acknowledging it (before an emergency).

When someone says "Ban XYZ", I have to shake my head is disbelief that people are that close minded and shallow.

It has nothing to do with discipline, it's life and death with him and I will fight with ANY means necessary to not allow it to happen.

 

[GypsmJim]

Not so simple.

Some schools today provide laptops to kids, others make parents buy them, either way kind of short sighted to ban them.

My grandson is a type 1 diabetic and after reading a story about a young girl dieing from low blood sugar at a sleep over, my daughter got him a CGM and a cell phone.
A Constant Glucose Monitor works with either a receiver or cell phone. A receiver only shows results in that unit, so if volume is down nobody hear an alarm. A cell phone with internet connection allows the signal to be shared with up to 10 people, so my daughter and I know his sugar level at all times and can be at the school in 5 minutes or less, if we see his levels dropping without him acknowledging it (before an emergency).

When someone says "Ban XYZ", I have to shake my head is disbelief that people are that close minded and shallow.

It has nothing to do with discipline, it's life and death with him and I will fight with ANY means necessary to not allow it to happen.

I think it's indisputable that kids learning is harmed with a cellphone. If we want to continue as we have been, there is no question that cell phones should be banned from the classroom.

But of course there needs to be exceptions. And your case is a perfect example.

 

[Super Trucker]

I think it's indisputable that kids learning is harmed with a cellphone. If we want to continue as we have been, there is no question that cell phones should be banned from the classroom.



But of course there needs to be exceptions. And your case is a perfect example.

The problem is people see that the majority of kids can benefit and the conversation stops.

 

[venomballistics]

Not so simple.

Some schools today provide laptops to kids, others make parents buy them, either way kind of short sighted to ban them.

My grandson is a type 1 diabetic and after reading a story about a young girl dieing from low blood sugar at a sleep over, my daughter got him a CGM and a cell phone.
A Constant Glucose Monitor works with either a receiver or cell phone. A receiver only shows results in that unit, so if volume is down nobody hear an alarm. A cell phone with internet connection allows the signal to be shared with up to 10 people, so my daughter and I know his sugar level at all times and can be at the school in 5 minutes or less, if we see his levels dropping without him acknowledging it (before an emergency).

When someone says "Ban XYZ", I have to shake my head is disbelief that people are that close minded and shallow.

It has nothing to do with discipline, it's life and death with him and I will fight with ANY means necessary to not allow it to happen.

I agree .....
What this tech brings to the academic table is astonishing.
Several years ago, I got a library card and checked out the local shelves....
Tell you what ... the phone in my pocket dwarfs it's academic power.
Any question man has faced has been answered somewhere, and there's a URL leading to it.
The library can't even come close to this.
Now if we can just get Skippy and Buffy to use that horsepower for something other than snapchat and tinder .....

 

[lihpster]

If you want to be worried about kids being harmed by cell phones, you shouldn't worry that someone will plant explosives in them. What you should be worrying about instead, as the odds of it happening is exponentially greater, is pedophiles, drug dealers, and others who prey on the young. That is a very real and currently happening danger.