So I bought an old Winchester 94

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There was a gunshop in town that I did not know was a gunshop. I had thought they sold only archery and fishing supplies. A guy I met at random said he bought a gun there, so I went to have a look. There were perhaps a half dozen long guns for sale in a case. One of those Chinese pump shotguns currently popular, an old Universal folding stock M1 carbine on consignment, a couple of Cricket youth rifles, and an old lever action Winchester.

After looking at the Universal and mulling over salvaging thr under folder stock, I asked to see the Winchester as an afterthought, remarking "Is that an old .30-30?"

I was told it was a World War 2 era gun. The recoil pad on it had turned as hard as the wood. It has an old Redfield peep sight mounted, set to point blabk range. Just the sort I would often see on those old Krag sporters I like... No rust. Nothing wrong with the wood, the finish largely intact...a few minor scratches...an old gouge on the forearm.

I was told it had been sitting there for months. The price was $450. I shouldered it, tried the action. It fit me well, seemed smooth, still tight. The price was on the high end for what I paid in the past for old Krags. Still... I do like those old Redfields.... This was set at basically point blank range. Ammunition would be easier to find than for a Krag...

So I bought it, with five rounds of .30-30 thrown in, that the owner had left for it.

Taking it home, and looking up the serial number gives a date between 1943 and 1948. Apparently records are missing for this period. So maybe it was a World War Two gun, maybe it leaving the factory in time to take potshots at the Roswell aliens, or maybe it was made just after that. But it was old.

I used to get store brand and Marlin .30-30s for $150 to $175. I would keep one around for a while then trade or sell it. That was a while back though. Now I never see a Marlin with an asking price under $300.

I know pre 64 Winchesters were the "good ones" according to classic gun lore. I honestly do not know if I overpaid or not. I thought of perhaps hanging this one up on a wall and calling it "my old Winchester". It seems too nice to use as a knock about, having survived this long.

Shrug. So...$450...decent price or did I fall victim to old Winchester nostalgia?
 
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Sounds like a fair price, given the age you are likely to have a "flat band" rifle. Check the first band (from the muzzle) holding the tube magazine to the barrel, is it flat or rounded? During WWII the normal round band was replaced (I assume due to parts issues?) with a flat piece of steel. While I won't claim it add's too much to the value on a 30-30, it is different and most of the hard core Winchester guys I know want to have a flat band or two in the mix.
 
The cut stock/recoil pad and the Redfield do kill collector value but that gun would bring considerably more without them so you did fine.
 
Sounds like a fair price, given the age you are likely to have a "flat band" rifle. Check the first band (from the muzzle) holding the tube magazine to the barrel, is it flat or rounded? During WWII the normal round band was replaced (I assume due to parts issues?) with a flat piece of steel. While I won't claim it add's too much to the value on a 30-30, it is different and most of the hard core Winchester guys I know want to have a flat band or two in the mix.

Never knew that about the flat band. I've got two 94's of that era, one was my grandmother's 30-30, serial number 1,264,xxx (1941 manufacture) and it has the rounded band. My dad's 32 special, serial number 1,446,xxx, (1943 - 1948) has the flat band.
 
A NIB '94 of that era would probably sell in the neighborhood of $900-$1000 in this area and you can deduct from there based on condition and originality. A used but all-original one would go in the area of $650-$700, assuming 90% finish and reasonably good wood. The originals had a steel buttplate and were not drilled for receiver sights so a pad and extra holes would detract considerably. The flat band might add just a little bit, depending on the buyer. In this area, figure something like $500 for the condition you describe. I'd say you did OK. Not a screamin' deal, but on the low end of the range, at least in my neck of the woods. Enjoy shootin' it!
 
I found while on vacation an old Winchester still in great condition for sale at a tag sale by the orginal owner for $275. It was in 32 special or win I can't remember. My misses said don't get it. She wasn't happy that day. I passed just to make her happy. When I got home I stuffed the internet print of the values being $750 to $1,000 at the time in her face.
These can be found at yard sales and flea markets in the states that are still free.
 
I found while on vacation an old Winchester still in great condition for sale at a tag sale by the orginal owner for $275. It was in 32 special or win I can't remember. My misses said don't get it. She wasn't happy that day. I passed just to make her happy. When I got home I stuffed the internet print of the values being $750 to $1,000 at the time in her face.
These can be found at yard sales and flea markets in the states that are still free.
She'd have been really mad had she been with me at the time. THe Winchester would have came home with me. She could decide for herself if she did.:D
 
if there's no picture, it never happened!!! we need pictures i can't get enough of a good winchester lever action...
 
"It's just an old .30-30."

How many times have I heard that? But those '94s are probably THE classic lever actions of the 20th Century, and a product of the incomparable design skills of the immortal John Moses Browning. And until 1964, they were made with the best of materials and seasoned skilled labor. In the right hands, they are still capable of putting meat on the table or serving as reliable defense rifles. You have a winner, and they are no longer made in the U.S.

I treasure a pre-'64 carbine I have that's in great shape, and when I found this Model 64 a couple of years ago, I couldn't resist. Made on the Model 1894 action, it was serialed in 1936 and still looks like it did when it rolled out of the Winchester plant in New Haven. Those Winchesters have charm, and they are very difficult to pass up when you find a good one.

John

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That's a nice rifle. I have a mid 50's vintage M94 .32 Special that I started loading lead bullets for...it's a hoot to shoot.

Did the same with my fathers 32 spec.
reformed a pile of 30-30 brass and used a gas checked 8MM RN sized down to 32. it positively sings with cast lead.
 
Did the same with my fathers 32 spec.
reformed a pile of 30-30 brass and used a gas checked 8MM RN sized down to 32. it positively sings with cast lead.

What size do you use? I have found .322" will sometimes keyhole but .324" will group as good as I can hold open sights at 50 yards.
 
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