Solar Charger for Batteries

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Anybody have any experience with this. Would like to have a solar panel (not sure what size or capacity) that would generate enough juice to charge cell phone and flashlight batteries. Are setups like this direct charge or do they have a battery in between to hold the charge from the panel.

I was asleep in HS and College when they talked about watts, amps and all that stuff. Any pics of your setup would be great.
 
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The output of most chargers of any kind - including solar - is rated in Watts. The formula for Watts is
Watts = volts x amps.

Phone chargers are almost all 5 volts and put out between 1 and 2 amps. So they pump electricity into your phone at a rate of 5 to 10 Watts.

FWIW, 5 Watts is more power than what your phone uses when it is turned on - otherwise the phone's battery wouldn't charge when the phone is turned on. So, in order to power and charge your phone directly a solar charger needs to produce at least around 5 Watts or more at 5 volts - so it needs to produce about 1amp minimum.

Looking on eBay for a 5 Watt solar panel most seem to be around 6" x 10" in size (60 square inches). So it takes a solar cell about 2/3 the size of a sheet of typing paper to put out enough electricity to charge a phone that is turned on. Not exactly something you can slip in your pocket.

The alternative is a smaller solar panel, say half the size - like 7.5" x 4" (30 square inches) - that puts out only 2-1/2 Watts, but that is attached to a small battery pack.

When the battery pack is fully charged, it will be able to put out 5 Watts to charge your phone. So once the battery pack is charged by the solar cell, it can then be used to charge your phone. It just takes a lot longer for the small solar panel to charge the battery pack than it takes for the battery pack to charge your cell phone.

Hopefully that explanation makes sense.
 
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Strangely enough, some phones are picky about what chargers they will work with.

I have a Moto X4. It will charge with any charger - some faster, some slower, but it will charge. The included charger is 5v 3amps. It charges the phone very quickly.

My son has an Essential phone. It also came with a 5v 3 amp charger that charges it very quickly. He tried using my Moto charger, and his phone will not charge with it. Mine will charge with his charger, though.

Strangely, they will both charge, albeit more slowly, with the same 2.1 amp car charger.

I don't know why.
 
For years I kept a 5W solar panel set up to keep the battery in my Harley Davidson topped off during the winter months. I think it cost about $15 or so.

Few years ago I set up a 100W photovoltaic cell with 12V charge controller to a 120AH deep cycle 12V battery and a 800W 12VDC-to-120VAC power inverter, all mounted on a wheeled cart. Used it for camping and hunting trips, powered LED lights, charged the cell phone, ran the laptop computer, and finished off a morning pot in the Mr. Coffee machine; then about 4 hours in sunlight topped off the battery for the next night.

Electrical power went out at my club during the Super Bowl game. I ran home, loaded up my outfit, and powered up the TV set for the last half. I don't think I had to pay for a beer for a month or two after that.

My last camp trailer was outfitted with two photovoltaic cells, 3 deep cycle batteries, and power inverter. I could run just about anything but the microwave (12" TV-VCR, lights, laptop, furnace blower, refrig, no problem) all night long, and even an overcast day allowed the batteries to fully recharge. The guy who bought that camper several years ago still raves about that power system, no generator running during elk season! Actually makes a pretty good "guest house" for the occasional overnight visitor.

Charging a cell phone or lap-top computer is easily done with simple and inexpensive solar equipment. You just have to make sure that your power output is compatible with your equipment.
 
LoboGunLeather....that is great info, thanks! I was thinking of using some of the stuff from HF, as I don't want to buy top self stuff to experiment with
 
I didn't realize Harbor Freight has so many different solar panels available.

A 1.5 Watt 12 volt panel for trickle charging a car battery. At 6" x 14" and only 1/8 of an amp it wouldn't work for phones. But it's only $14.

A 5 volt, 5 Watt panel with a USB port that would be perfect for charging a cell phone. It's kind of big - almost 12" x 16" when laid out, but it folds in half to 6" x 16" and has a protective nylon cover/case built in. Not bad for less than $40.

A a 13 Watt 12/24 volt that's about twice as big for $75. With that one you can use with a regular car charger to charge your phone, and it will charge your car battery too.

A 25 Watt 12 volt that's 14" x 40" for $70. You'd have to rig up a cigarette lighter socket on that one - it doesn't come with one to use with your phone's car charger. But it would charge your car battery.

And the biggie, a 100 Watt unit that puts out 12 volts and almost 7 amps. For $200 that one would charge a lot of things - but it's also really big since it is actually 4 of the 25 Watt panels hooked together. So it's around 40" x 60".

If I were shopping for one I'd start with their 25 Watt unit. More than enough to charge phones and stuff, reasonably sized, and a decent price for what you're getting. It should also be able to be hooked in parallel with additional 25 Watt kits or even the 100 Watt kit if you ever wanted to expand.
 
I had a solar panel charging my ham radio battery but took it down when they resided my house and have no put it back up yet. Kept the battery fully charged and ready incase we lost AC. Worked fine.
 
Photovoltaic solar panels are a proven method of generating electricity from sunlight easily and economically. The primary limitation on any PV solar set-up is that nothing works when there is no direct sunlight (such as those regular time periods referred to as "night"). This leads naturally to the idea of battery storage, which is easy enough to do using common deep-cycle batteries (as used in golf carts, wheelchairs, boats, etc).

With a charge controller to direct generated electricity to the battery (or batteries) and a power inverter to convert stored DC electricity to AC power it is possible to be completely independent of public power sources.

Of course, therein lies the major economic leap, as battery storage capacity is rather expensive, and batteries have a limited service life (charge-discharge cycles). Storage batteries and connections to house circuits are the biggest part of home solar system expense.

I put together my first unit for camping and hunting trips. Started with a 100W PV panel with 12V charge controller ($83 at the time), 120AH 12V deep cycle battery ($110) with battery box ($16), and 800W 12VDC-to-120VAC power inverter ($66), all mounted on a 2-wheel moving dolly ($29). Total $304 for a completely portable solar power generator and storage unit that one person can load, unload, and move around to required positions. This took care of LED lights (tent and campsite), reading light, radio, laptop computer, cell phone charging, 12" mini-TV/VCR, and the Mr. Coffee machine. Also capable of jump-starting my truck if needed.

When I purchased a camp trailer it was equipped with 2 deep-cycle 12V batteries and on-board power inverter. It was easy to add the 3rd battery and mount up the PV solar panels (2X100W). This doubled my charging capacity and tripled my electrical storage capacity. Capable of running everything in the camper, although I did not use the air conditioner because required amperage would quickly deplete the batteries (the system would do it, but only for a couple of hours).

For those considering solar power, even for limited needs like battery charging, I recommend the addition of deep-cycle battery storage and power inverter. Then you will have power any time of the day or night, and a minimal back-up system for the home in case of power outage. The Harbor Freight 100W 4-panel outfit is actually pretty good, but there is no storage capacity (batteries), so it is a sunny day only system unless you add storage; with sufficient storage it will make a pretty good home back-up unit (capable of powering some lights, radio, furnace fan, limited use of a refrigerator, etc).
 
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