Thanks David for the info. I'm new to these guns and need all the info I can get.
Some I-frame ?'s
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OldDominion
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I wasn't familiar with the I frame revolvers until I began looking for birth year (1952) guns. I have found several, and I was instantly a fan. Here are two of the ones I have found so far...a 22/32 Post War Transitional 8/52 and Pre-30 1/52.
edit: Two things have become clear to me...1) Wear my glasses when I post. 2) I am not computer savy. Somehow I have deleted the pics of my .22/32 from my photo files. However, here is a link to my original post when I acquired it, along with those elusive photos. http://smith-wessonforum.com/s-w-ha...3-almost-birthday-gun-22-32-transitional.html
edit: Two things have become clear to me...1) Wear my glasses when I post. 2) I am not computer savy. Somehow I have deleted the pics of my .22/32 from my photo files. However, here is a link to my original post when I acquired it, along with those elusive photos. http://smith-wessonforum.com/s-w-ha...3-almost-birthday-gun-22-32-transitional.html
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OldDominion
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Sorry for the double post, but for some reason I couldn't upload the second pair of photos. I have also found a 2" Pre-30 12/52 and a ANIB .38 Regulation Police 2/53. The stocks on the .32 should be magnas. The workmanship and attention to detail of these guns rival anything S&W ever made.
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Those are all three choice specimens. The 22/32 didn't show up and would love to see that one as well.
I echo Jim's comments and would also love to see the .22/32. It looks like we got two different pictures of the Pre-30 in the earlier of the two posts.
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+1 To Jim & David... that post-War 22/32 is an elusive bird. I'd love to own one but even seeing a good example would be a start. The guns you showed, OD, are nothing to sneer at. In fact, they are very nice examples of the genre. There is a thread going on the 1980 to Present Forum talking about how it's a shame there are so few small revolvers available from S&W these days and what a niche they fill. I sure am glad I have mine which were built in this earlier, more proud era of S&W production. "He had a 32 gun in his pocket for fun..." 
Froggie
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TACC1, unless the rear of the frame is rebated for the square type grip extension and the serial number is moved from the bottom of the grip frame to the front, I would ID your little 38 as the much less frequently seen Hand Ejector model rather than the RP. What is altered, the barrel? It looks kinda like a pre-Terrier from here. Cool gun!! 
Froggie
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TACC1,
That's a well proportioned little fun shooter. I like to see how they look with non-factory barrel lengths especially when made to look original with the factory front sight reused.
That's a well proportioned little fun shooter. I like to see how they look with non-factory barrel lengths especially when made to look original with the factory front sight reused.
Hondo44,
I was just trying to start something. That R-P is not
stock. The grip-frame has been cut to round-butt form,
and the barrel has been shortened to its current length.
I got it like that, but I really wanted a Terrier style firearm.
This one needed a new finish, and a little help with the reset.
The S/N is on the front of the grip frame where it belongs.
Fits nicely in one of the Lobo holsters. It's not perfect, but it
does suit me, and it has a new lease on life. Thanks for the
comments.
TACC1
I was just trying to start something. That R-P is not
stock. The grip-frame has been cut to round-butt form,
and the barrel has been shortened to its current length.
I got it like that, but I really wanted a Terrier style firearm.
This one needed a new finish, and a little help with the reset.
The S/N is on the front of the grip frame where it belongs.
Fits nicely in one of the Lobo holsters. It's not perfect, but it
does suit me, and it has a new lease on life. Thanks for the
comments.
TACC1
TACC1,
Well I sure like it in it's present configuration. Yes the front 'toe' had to be rounded a bit and has a piece of wood been used as a filler piece to fill the rebate in the backstrap?
Well I sure like it in it's present configuration. Yes the front 'toe' had to be rounded a bit and has a piece of wood been used as a filler piece to fill the rebate in the backstrap?
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Just to mess around with definitional certainties that turn out not to be that certain at all, please consider this postwar transitional .38 Regulation Police. This is 58470, an early postwar gun. Note the large ejector rod knob and the presence of the strain screw. This is about as "prewar" as you can get in a postwar gun.
Yup, round butt. The frame is unrebated and the stocks are unmodified. The gun letters this way.
Basically, this is a Terrier frame with a four inch barrel on it. I also have 54804 in the same configuration. I think these should have been marketed as the .38/32 Dachshund.
Yeah, I know. I have made that joke before, but I can't stop myself.
Yup, round butt. The frame is unrebated and the stocks are unmodified. The gun letters this way.
Basically, this is a Terrier frame with a four inch barrel on it. I also have 54804 in the same configuration. I think these should have been marketed as the .38/32 Dachshund.
Yeah, I know. I have made that joke before, but I can't stop myself.
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Green Frog
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Apparently it was a darned small niche! They sure are scarce on the ground around here.
Oh well, I've still got my pre-War Terrier to comfort me. They're supposed to be pretty rare too, as I understand it. 
Froggie
Jim,
The stocks are not original to the gun. The wood sticks out to the rear of the backstrap. I found no markings on the frame or the stocks.
Even with all the mods done to it, I enjoy it as a shooter.
There sure are some great guns in this thread, that have
Not been modified/mutilated. Great thread, I even learned stuff.
TACC1
The stocks are not original to the gun. The wood sticks out to the rear of the backstrap. I found no markings on the frame or the stocks.
Even with all the mods done to it, I enjoy it as a shooter.
There sure are some great guns in this thread, that have
Not been modified/mutilated. Great thread, I even learned stuff.
TACC1
simmitt
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I'm intrigued by what you say. To restate, the serial # is on the forestrap but the grip frame backstrap is not rebated and the round but stocks are flush with the backstrap. And there are no marks or sign of metal being added to fill a rebated backstrap.
Standard RP stocks and grip frame with rebate and sq toe:
This tells me it may have been produced with the extended target stocks with 2 screws which have been seen before on RPs, but in wood during the RP era. If that was the case the grip frame would be a rd butt and not rebated. Therefore not needing any modification for the rd butt stocks to fit perfectly.
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Jim,
I found no evidence of mill-work on back of frame, 'course
now it would be hidden by the refinish.
When I first posted about this gun, I realised that it had to
be lettered. Mr. Jinks says it came standard frame from the
factory and modified later. DOB=1922
And, since this post means nothing w/o pics, it isn't lonely.
TACC1
I found no evidence of mill-work on back of frame, 'course
now it would be hidden by the refinish.
When I first posted about this gun, I realised that it had to
be lettered. Mr. Jinks says it came standard frame from the
factory and modified later. DOB=1922
And, since this post means nothing w/o pics, it isn't lonely.
TACC1
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I'm pretty sure by "standard frame" he meant the standard 32 Hand Ejector frame with round butt as it is now. Did you get the info in a phone call or do you have it in a letter? If in a letter, could you post the letter or quote the exact sentence referring to standard frame?
I love those perfected models:
Thx,
I love those perfected models:
Thx,
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I have to admit that I'm not 100% sure what the
letter states about the frame. I'm not the brightest light on the
Christmas tree, so it is understandable. I somehow got
the impression that somewhere, there were 38S&W roundbutts.
It didn't look that way from SCSW 3rd At any rate, the
letter is attached. Getting this letter from Roy showed me
one of the reasons to get letters. It does add to the
interest and enjoyment of accumulating S&W's.
Thanks for looking, it means a lot.
TACC1
letter states about the frame. I'm not the brightest light on the
Christmas tree, so it is understandable. I somehow got
the impression that somewhere, there were 38S&W roundbutts.
It didn't look that way from SCSW 3rd At any rate, the
letter is attached. Getting this letter from Roy showed me
one of the reasons to get letters. It does add to the
interest and enjoyment of accumulating S&W's.
Thanks for looking, it means a lot.
TACC1
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TACC1, I think when Roy says it was modified after leaving the factory he is referring only to the shortened barrel. It sounds to me as though it shipped with standard square butt Regulation Police stocks. When somebody put the small round butt stocks on it, they didn't fill in the recess in the grip frame, so that's why "the wood sticks out to the rear of the backstrap" as you said above.
I think I am interpreting your description correctly, but if I sound as though I am off target, maybe you could post another photo of the gun from the back, so we can see the interplay between frame and stocks. And maybe another photo with the stocks off, so we can see the profile of the grip frame.
I agree that you have a fine little shooter. The interest in Terriers and the modified RPs like yours must have contributed to S&W's decision to introduce the Chiefs Special in 1950.
I think I am interpreting your description correctly, but if I sound as though I am off target, maybe you could post another photo of the gun from the back, so we can see the interplay between frame and stocks. And maybe another photo with the stocks off, so we can see the profile of the grip frame.
I agree that you have a fine little shooter. The interest in Terriers and the modified RPs like yours must have contributed to S&W's decision to introduce the Chiefs Special in 1950.
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