Some more Sunday craziness on Gunbroker

The seller uses schills. Look at all his auctions. Same 4-5 bidders every time. Gunbroker don't care. It's been brought to there attention a hundred times. I feel bad for the guy who keeps falling for it. But oh well. Also funny to watch seller relist the same guns 90 days later. And then no feedback ever left.
 
Bigbill's rules to engaging auctions.
Set your bidding max limit before you bid write it down.
Don't get caught up in the bidding.
Don't get sucked into the hype of a bidding war.
This isn't a game when you over bid yomu don't win you lose.
This isn't like throwing baseball cards at school playing leaners when we were kids.
There are schrills who bid to pump up the prices for the seller sometimes. The one shrill raised his bid three times with no one bidding against him. That's really stinking fishy.
Please bid what you can afford. Be careful,

If it's too good to be true back off.


$4,001 for a m19? Your kidding me.
 
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jjbrewst1 said:
The seller uses schills. Look at all his auctions. Same 4-5 bidders every time. Gunbroker don't care. It's been brought to there attention a hundred times. I feel bad for the guy who keeps falling for it. But oh well. Also funny to watch seller relist the same guns 90 days later. And then no feedback ever left.
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I was wondering about this too.
 
I asked what information he had to back up his claim a pre war Browning HiPower was a "Nazi SS capture" as serial number was pre invasion, no proof marks, no capture papers. Response - Crickets! ya say what now?
 
Absalom said:
I look for my Gunbroker moments in exactly the opposite direction, in the basement, not on the rooftop so to speak. I just paid about $100 less than the going rate for a nice .38 Spl. Victory model because the seller apparently didn't know what he had, apologized in the description for lots of honest wear on the bluing (which of course was never there in the first place) and mistook the nicely preserved wartime phosphate finish for heavy patina. Due to mislabeling and unexciting photos, nobody else seems to have noticed, and for five days I was and remained the only bidder. That's MY kind of Gunbroker craziness.
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So where is your own thread with pics and what you paid, hmmmmmm?? :D
 
I bought a model 36 square butt with a 3" barrel off of gunbroker a few weeks ago fo $301.99 & no shipping charge. Looked it up & it was made in 1971. I was a sophmore in high school. I have been trying to snap up 3" guns when I can. I have four of them now.
 
I just picked up a 67 no dash in real clean shape for 300 out the door . and there was a model 19 dash 3 I think blued for 500 I might go get it .
 
You cant trust half the sellers on GB. Just wait you Smith guys, this auction is just the start, and its about to get worse. Just like what happened to the Colts. Crooks move in, hype them up, and push the prices to beyond affordable. Then the investment types swoop in with their infinitely deep pockets, and buy everything up. Then shooter examples become out of range.
You all would be best put to remember this, and not give in to "super hype". That seller has been brought up before on the Colt forum about less than ethical practices. Like I said, almost no GB sellers can be fully trusted, especially the Colt focused dealers. Even the most well respected ones on GB are not without dirty hands. Not all, but you would be VERY surprised. The use of schill bidders has become quite common nowadays. I have seen it done numerous times.
 
Makes me wonder, how much was the retail price on that in 1979? :rolleyes:
 
Ok, 4 grand is a lot of money, no doubting that. Yet to my semi-trained eye the revolver is a close to new in box as a "used" gun can get. It is the full package. Remember there are folks out there with LOTS of disposable income, who are willing to use, that income, to acquire what they want. I understand it's not P.C. to admit it, but I say, good for them, enjoy it when you can.

For myself I'm really glad that I don't want to own something, no matter what it is, as pristine as that model 19-4 appears to be. I refuse to be owned by the items I own.
 
Like Jim and Kelpatt mentioned seller is scrooge. I seen the same 25-2 get relisted 3 times before it sold for good. I questioned seller about why it was up again and again and he had the nerve to tell me it was a different gun every time but had the same serial number every time lol. Seen it with several of his bs auctions.
 
jubela#4 said:
It appears the buyer has deep pockets, check out their recent purchases from the same seller within the past couple weeks.
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Same buyer & seller in other teams? That tickles the olfactory senses a bit, i.e. It smells. What about the other bidder?

It's starting to look to me like scheduling your auction to end on Sunday is the way to go.

No stuff, none of us will be around in 150 years. What's that got to do with the thread.
 
Candid Comments from the Unwashed in the Field

Gentlemen:

Regarding the $4K M19 on GB, I agree the buyer made a dumb decision.

I have enjoyed collecting S&W revolvers for 50+ years and paid $87.50 for my first K-38 in 1967. I enjoy this forum as a resource and commentary on S&W collecting.

I know the seller in question and have done business with him from time to time over the past 30 years beginning in the early 1980's. I have NEVER felt cheated or found his dealings unprofessional. The seller knows his stuff and I have bought some items from him sight unseen based on his verbal description.

I have been burned a couple times on GB and I have enjoyed some great deals. Most of the time I bid only on items well represented with excellent photographs. I am responsible for making my own assessments as to the price I pay for those items I need to "plug a hole" in my collection.

I'm a big boy and willing to take my lumps for bad decisions. I am equally amused by the insanity on GB; however, I think that some of the comments made here are beyond the pale.

A fool and his money are soon parted is a well know maxim.

Finally, I would like to thank everyone in the forum for the wealth of information and commentary that I have enjoyed over the years.

Cheers!
 
Ambrose_Duck said:
Gentlemen:



Regarding the $4K M19 on GB, I agree the buyer made a dumb decision.



I have enjoyed collecting S&W revolvers for 50+ years and paid $87.50 for my first K-38 in 1967. I enjoy this forum as a resource and commentary on S&W collecting.



I know the seller in question and have done business with him from time to time over the past 30 years beginning in the early 1980's. I have NEVER felt cheated or found his dealings unprofessional. The seller knows his stuff and I have bought some items from him sight unseen based on his verbal description.



I have been burned a couple times on GB and I have enjoyed some great deals. Most of the time I bid only on items well represented with excellent photographs. I am responsible for making my own assessments as to the price I pay for those items I need to "plug a hole" in my collection.



I'm a big boy and willing to take my lumps for bad decisions. I am equally amused by the insanity on GB; however, I think that some of the comments made here are beyond the pale.



A fool and his money are soon parted is a well know maxim.



Finally, I would like to thank everyone in the forum for the wealth of information and commentary that I have enjoyed over the years.



Cheers!
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Im happy you have had great dealings with him. The majority of us here have not.

Not even the simplest of replies to any of our questions. He won't respond.

I really do not have to say anymore. Check the bid history of these auctions in question. They speak for themselves.
 
It's always nice to get a good deal but I have said it before and I will say it again that these beautiful revolvers are worth what you can get for them not what some self anointed expert thinks he should pay for them. How many have we passed up over A $50 or $100 dollar bill that in retrospect we should have jumped on. Several for me.
 
My point exactly. I am responsible for knowing what I need to know to make a decision. This is true regardless of the seller. I appreciate the wealth of information shared here, but there seems to be a select few that are eager to argue. I'm lucky to have more than I need purchased when the prices far more reasonable. Go in peace and enjoy.
 
I agree with the Wall Street analysis. I am 78 and I'm still buying. My bride and I are realizing zilch in interest on savings. We haven't even had the nerve to look at the stocks lately.

Guns are a better investment right now than savings or stocks. But so are fence posts and lots of other commodities, if you have a place to store them.

Jack
 
S&W

That's crazy amount for that Revolver. But hey, there is always
more to the story.

I recently had a bad expeniance on Gun Broker. I asked
the seller some really hard questions.

Seller thought my questions were out of line, said my questions
were insulting, seller blocked my bidding.

At this same time I almost got burned on another deal
same kind revolver from a different seller, the revolver
was butchered, pictures made it look
good, but upon inspection it was a different story.

I was just not going to hand over a bunch of money to someone
I don't know, I don't care how perfect things appear.

When I want something I do my research and ask
the questions sellers are usually uncomfortable answering.

From now on it's face to face or do without.
 
I have been wanting a 66-1 and 27-2 3.5 for months. I have given up. Every time I find something in condition I want it goes nuts.
JR
 
I buy on Gun Broker from time to time but, living on a fixed income, I have to draw a price line in the sand beyond which I won't go. Sometimes I win, sometimes the other guy wins. More power to him. I always figure there will be another one, maybe better, come along. Just have to be patient.
 
Though I have found a few good buys on GB (and GA and GI), I have been much luckier locally. And, FTF, I can actually see the condition before handing over the cash.
 
I was talking about this very thing with my roomate baseball great "Pete Rose". We both agreed its always best to bid on guns...ect alittle "bagged up"12 yr old scotch 3 fingers neat please will be a good start for me. Though now days I do like private transactions better , but thats just me. Guns or gold cant go wrong with either one CUBS WIN ....CUBS WIN??
 
I agree with the last few posts here. I've become very hesitant when looking at some, what appear to be excellent looking pieces online (gunbroker etc). I'm sure most of the time they really are great guns shown accuratly, but then again, we hear about those instances where they weren't exactly how they were portrayed. I'm willing to pass up some of these, though it may be difficult at times, to hopefully find a gem in person. There's just to many "what if's" for me to pull the trigger and purchase something like this without actually holding it in my hands and giving it a good once over inspection. That's just me though.
 
Hapworth said:
We're laughing now, but what about in 150 years?

;)
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I'll never fault those who have the money to buy what they want and this is a FINE piece for sure...

If one were to invest $4,000.00 in a good solid growth or income mutual fund what would it be worth in 150 years? My fear is , if there is another 150 years (likely there is) will guns even be around?

It seems as the years pass; possessions (I/we could own) become less and less important...peace of mind , is what comes to mind much more often. The GOOD thing is...this is the USA so do it your way!!! Your/our FREEDOM means more to me than anything and I'd die protecting it...to the end either way.

Won't backdown on that one my friends...old or not...just sayin'...

Shoot safe and be thankful for what you have.
 
The Norseman said:
That's crazy amount for that Revolver. But hey, there is always
more to the story.

I recently had a bad expeniance on Gun Broker. I asked
the seller some really hard questions.

Seller thought my questions were out of line, said my questions
were insulting, seller blocked my bidding.

At this same time I almost got burned on another deal
same kind revolver from a different seller, the revolver
was butchered, pictures made it look
good, but upon inspection it was a different story.

I was just not going to hand over a bunch of money to someone
I don't know, I don't care how perfect things appear.

When I want something I do my research and ask
the questions sellers are usually uncomfortable answering.

From now on it's face to face or do without.
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I've driven and flown my plane hundreds of thousands of miles selling , trading for and buying semi-trailers for 32 years...brother there ain't nothing like putting your eyes on any piece of equipment until you've seen it...

I spend my bosses money like I'd spend my own...and have walked on a hundred deals if I've walked on one.

The old saying goes..."Once bitten...twice shy."
 
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