Some thoughts on the art of shooting

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I guess this post could go in to a number of topics on this forum, but because of one example I use I'll post it here. Moderators should feel free to move it if there's someplace more appropriate.

I am now four months short of my 65th birthday. I learned the basics of driving at age 12 in a 1964 VW Bug – 4-speed manual transmission, a mighty 40 horsepower engine. The Bug had no gas gauge, just a lever you turned with your foot with which you could switch from the main fuel supply to a reserve that would get you about another 50 miles down the road when the main ran dry and the engine started stumbling. No heater, either – just a vent you could open that allowed hot air from the engine compartment to gently waft in to the cabin once the engine was at operating temperature – and it took a LONG time to get there on cold mornings! Needless to say, no air conditioner, not even a radio, much less a CD or MP3 player. Such things as the latter were in the distant Star Trek future -- heck, Star Trek hadn't even been born yet!

Looking back, it really wasn't much of a car but it got you where you wanted to go reliably and economically and – this was the important part – it was quite well-suited to teaching a young man the basics of driving. I knew that one day I would have better cars, so I concentrated on learning to be the best driver I could be in anticipation of transferring those basic skills to other, different, and unquestionably better vehicles down the road. Since then I have done just that, having learned to drive everything from tiny, high-performance sports cars to the giant luxury gas hogs of the '70's, to 18-wheelers, to farm equipment – you name it. Each one different from the others, sometimes radically so, but in each case calling for reliance on the same old basics I learned so well in the VW Bug. I guess I could call myself a skilled, well-rounded driver.

Much the same could be said for my evolution as a shooter. I learned handgun shooting basics on a S&W .22/.32 Target revolver, popularly referred to as the Bekeart model, that belonged to my grandfather. A single-shot Springfield Meteor .22 bolt action taught me rifle basics. Using the principles of safe handling, trigger control and sight alignment learned on those guns I gradually moved on to magnum revolvers, single-action, double-action and Glock-style semi-auto handguns, and rifles of just about any type you could name. Like the vehicles I have learned to drive, each gun was different, and each required learning some new technique to be employed effectively, but the learning experience on all of them still fell back on the basics I learned 'way back. I am not bragging when I say that nowadays you can hand me just about any type of firearm ever made, from hande gonne to matchlock to the latest whiz-bang assault rifle, and within a few minutes I will have it loaded and will be hitting targets with satisfying regularity. I have made myself in to a skilled, well-rounded shooter.

I bring all this up because one of the most frequent questions I see asked by new gun owners on this and other gun forums is, “What are the must-do modifications I need to make on this gun?” Now, don't get me wrong – I have modified many a gun in my day. Sometimes the mod was meant to improve function, other times to improve its appearance in a way pleasing to me, and sometimes it was just out of the desire for something to do. But the problem I have with the question is that it presupposes that there is something wrong with the new gun that needs fixing before it can be employed for its intended use. In fact, this is rarely true. It's much more often the SHOOTER who needs modification and not the gun.

A quite common example of this is the experienced 1911 shooter who gives in to peer pressure, or just whim, and buys a Glock or some Glock-type clone like the various S&W M&P models. Immediately he discovers that at best all his shots, seemingly inexplicably, are going low/left or low/right – or, worst case, he's not grouping his shots at all. His first query to the forums will usually be “Is there a trigger-mod kit to fix this?” Well – no, not really.

You see, the main problem he's experiencing isn't coming from the gun. The Glock-style trigger isn't WORSE than the 1911 trigger – it's DIFFERENT, just like the Mercedes AMG S63 is different from the 1964 VW Bug. If he insists on trying to make the Glock in to a 1911, disappointment will be the inevitable result. On the other hand, if he takes the trouble to learn the proper employment of the Glock system he may learn that such a trigger is in some ways actually superior in a self-defense pistol.

I guess what I am saying here is pretty simple. Although it is a common human trait, the first question we should always ask in a case like this is not, “What is wrong with this gun?”, but rather, “What am I doing wrong?” In the majority of cases, that is the direction in which we will find answers. And sometimes, frankly, the answer may be that you never should have tried to make the transition to a different type of gun – but if you can make that transition successfully you will have made significant progress towards becoming a skilled, well-rounded shooter.
 
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I can identify with much of what you write.I learned to drive in a 1953 Plymouth,thus learning clutch/throttle control early on.I learned trigger control on my grandfathers Ruger Mk.1,and I learned recoil management from an equally old Fox 12ga single shot.Skills learned at an early age tend to stay forever.
My modest handgun selection includes single action and double action revolvers,SA/DA autoloaders,and striker-fired autos.All are different,most have unique qualities,but I shoot them all equally well.The key is to understand the strengths and weaknesses of the individual platforms.
BTW,my M10-2 is the VW of hanguns-not the fastest or sexiest,but it does what it was intended to do.I admire machinery that works.
Clark
 
I have loads developed using my ransom that shoot poi/poa. In my opinion once I have a good load that will shoot say under 1" @ 25yards. I now know the gun and load are NOT the problem.
At this point the more you shoot and practice the better you get.
As opposed to going to the range with 5 types of ammo all shooting different poi/poa (and they all do). Lots of times this is why people assume their gun is inaccurate, or they are doing something wrong. The problem lies in the ammo/gun/sights. And the shooter
 
Being only a few years younger, I too learned the basics from my dad on rifle and shotgun usage. Handguns I had to learn on my own (as was learning to reload my own ammo). Basic 22 rifles and single barrel Winchester & H&R shotguns. My first foray into handguns were H&R revolvers.

I totally agree that some folks do not work at understanding how different platforms require different, or maybe "adjusted" skill sets on their use. Heaven knows I had to learn some of these things prior to this internet thingy LOL. Going from revolver to 1911 to striker fired was an eye opener for me; but once you get back to basics, it all works out-usually...
 
I am 68 and I still have my 64VW. Still drive it too. Still has a 40 HP engine and six-volt electricals.

Honestly, Robert, I sometimes feel we'd all be better off if that's all we had! Realistically, though, I enjoy an automatic, on-demand heating and cooling, cruise control, and such things as indoor plumbing...
 
While I understand the OP's original point, I have to disagree...

There are indeed good and bad triggers. This is not to say that all 1911 triggers are good and all Glock triggers are bad, but there is a spectrum upon which you can place all triggers, from very good to very bad. What I think logically distributes triggers along this spectrum is how easy/hard it is to master, i.e., the ability of the shooter to place shots on target in a period of time sufficiently short to make a difference. In general, if there are no time constraints a good shooter can make due with almost any trigger. I think what makes good shooters stand out is their ability to accommodate the equipment vice using it as an excuse for poor performance. However, since really good shooters are in the minority, most people should look at triggers in terms of how easy/hard is that particular trigger to learn. I too am in my mid-60s and regularly teach new (and sometimes experienced) shooters. Of all the lessons I have to teach is how to accommodate the trigger. Although, it's the most fundamental of all shooting skills it is also one of the first skills that fades over time if not regularly refreshed with practice. Since I routinely shoot revolvers and autos, and in addition to my 1911s have regularly shot Glocks, S&W M&Ps as well as other striker-fired pistols, I find that the most salient characteristic that governs my performance is not the overall inherent accuracy of the gun/ammunition (within limits of course), but my ability to manipulate its trigger under limited time constraints.
Keith
 
In my experience:

Average shooter + average (mass produced) trigger = (less than) average results. My experience puts about 90%+ of all pistol shooters in this category.

Good shooter + average trigger = better than average results

Good shooter + improved trigger = great results

BUT

Average shooter + improved trigger = faster progress toward becoming a good shooter if real effort toward progress is made. Having to overcome the vagaries of an average or worse trigger(s) slows progress, frustrates most individuals, and encourages remaining at the mediocre stage.

That being said, most good shooters got there without improved triggers, just paying the price to learn all triggers. This takes more time and commitment, but it is worth it.

I currently have 5 striker-fired self defense pistols. I have tuned the triggers so they are all very similar in feel so I can shoot any of them reasonably well without having to adjust my trigger control. This is important enough to me to pay the extra needed to make these gun triggers similar in take-up, break weight, over travel and reset.

Without improving them, I would have at least 4 different trigger pulls that would probably decrease my hit percentage in fast shooting. I could shoot all four reasonably well at the range when not under pressure.

In backpacking, we decrease pack weight by eliminating ounces; pounds follow. In shooting, I can increase performance results with mechanical upgrades that make my gun more reliable and accurate. Small improvements add up to measurable positive results with concomitant training, practice and efforts.
 
For all those that badmouth striker fired pistols and lousy sights. I can only show this evidence.:rolleyes:

25 meters one hand. And it's a competition target, not practice.:D
 

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Practice takes care of so many issues with cars, girls and guns. Started with a 1965 Pontiac Catalina wagon, trucks, school buses, motorcycles and an airplane. Guns went the same way too. Basics plus practice made it so I could should each trigger type nearly the same now without much transition time.
 
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