Something satisfying about single stage batch loading.

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I have not done much single stage loading in a long time. I am laid up for a while from some surgery so I figured I sure had the time! Boring!

Got out the Uniflow, loading blocks, hand primer and went at it. Very therapeutic. I especially like manually dropping the powder and then having a tray of 50 to inspect with my readers and flashlight.:) Pop in the bullets, seat them, crimp them and put em in their little boxes.

Kinda feels like hand-loading, making something, rather than just yanking a lever.
 
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Hey, are you running down my Dillons?

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Hey, hope the surgery goes/went well. Sorry to hear you have/had to have any though.

Will be praying for you now that I know! ;)

Get better soon.
 
I have a Dillon -- rarely use it. I would, I am sure, if I got in to some-high-volume shooting game. But there is definitely something satisfying in cranking out a couple hundred rounds one-step-at-a-time.
 
My old Lyman Spartan single stage I've had for 34 years is all I've ever used, or will ever use. I couldn't afford anything else when I started out and now that I could afford something else I'm too old to be bothered with it.:D

I do think sometimes that I would have liked to try out a turret press, but never had access to one. Oh, well. Simple is a good thing.
 
I just single staged some 32 S&W. It's a frustrating little cartridge to do well, but my little box of rounds is done now and I know they will shoot great. I've loaded 100 rounds of 32 S&W since I got into this cartridge, so that means I've already paid for the equipment. ;)
 
A single shot RCBS has kept me in ammo for over 40 years.

I've seen a lot of changes in my life and I've fought every durned one of them.;)
 
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I have had a Dillon Square Deal B press for perhaps 13 years,,loaded many rounds with it. When I , and others get through with it, I have that uncomfortable feeling about the loads. Nothing bad has occurred, but !

Don't shoot in the volume I used to, and I'm back to my OLD RCBS Jr. single stage press. I can (and do) check each stage, LOOK at the powder level in the loading block, and KNOW it's done right.

I may have the oldest functioning RCBS Jr. press around.

I started loading with it in 1961...........Never replaced a part..............
 
Lots of familiar sounds here. I love shooting 44 SPL and 45 LC but don't like those fancy ammo prices. My Lee hand primer and single stage press do a great job and YES, they give you the feeling that you are really hand loading.
 
I have been using the same RCBS Jr that I bought at "Fedmart" in Yuma, Arizona in 1973. Still have the box as well.

And the Ohaus "505" scale I bought with it...and its box.

I weigh all handgun and rifle charges except in some handgun charges I use the Lee Loader dippers. I have found them to be as accurate as my RCBS powder measure and less trouble to set up for different loads.

Of course I do not load a LOT of handgun ammo as I do not shoot competitively.

I am like several other posters here. Simple is good and it is, to me, easier to maintain ammo quality and safety as I can visually check each case before I seat bullet.
 
I have loaded on a single stage press since 1978. as Rule 3 say's, it is very therapeutic.
 
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I have a nice Rockchucker laying on the floor in my garage. Not using that boat anchor is comforting.
 
I just single staged some 32 S&W. It's a frustrating little cartridge to do well, but my little box of rounds is done now and I know they will shoot great. I've loaded 100 rounds of 32 S&W since I got into this cartridge, so that means I've already paid for the equipment. ;)

327 Fed Magnums. Little skinny missiles;)
 
single stage presses

For me 100 cartriges are a lot of ammo. I cast out of a 4# Lee pot, And use a single stage press and it enriches my life. The reason I reload is because I like to, it's that simple. I am not going to make it less than fun by seeking high volumes, high velocity, pinpoint accuracy, etc. You do it your way and I'll do it mine. I have thought of setting up a row of cheap single stage presses and pick up an empty and go down the row nnd drop a loaded cartridge in a box at fhe end.
 
4000+ Rounds

I purchased a Lee Hand Press with dies for 380, 9mm, 38/357 and 45 acp just over a year ago.

Then I got busy producing ammo.

I log every session and number every lot. I just finished my 83rd box of 50 cartridges.

I weigh every charge.

It's slow and tedious... that's a fact... but it's also cheap and effective... Takes about an hour to produce a box, so I spend about 3 hours loading every two weeks.

I wouldn't have shot 25% of the rounds I've shot this year if I'd had to buy commercial ammunition.

I'd love to own a progressive press... maybe someday I will... in the meantime, I believe that the experience of truly "handloading" my own cartridges has been worth every minute I've spent.
 
Thinking of getting a progressive. Been single staging for 30+ years. Haven't worn out my Rockchucker yet. Yes, I enjoy reloading. Takes my mind off things. Right now I am working on batching a 3 gallon bucket of 45 ACP. Batching includes de-priming, Lemishine, Turbo polishing, re-priming, and getting ready to stuff some slugs. Can't get any better than that. I have to add casting which is a different thrill. Keeps me out of the bars.
 
Is there any other way? ;)

Have to agree with previous posts. I find it therapeutic, satisfying, relaxing, and just plain enjoyable, mostly because I like being a part of the process. Sometimes I can't decide what I like best reloading ammo or shooting it. it takes my mind off things too, I look at it as if it were just another hobby like building bird houses or something, not something that is attached to or that I have to do because of my other shooting hobby.

I am just now getting around to setting up a proper reloading bench, almost done but, even that will just be a little Tru-Line Jr. Turret and a couple of single stages.

Up to now I've been literally hand loading everything with a hand tool. Mostly it was due to my living arrangements. I live in an apartment and when just starting out with reloading I both wasn't sure which way I wanted to go and didn't really have the space to dedicate to a full on reloading bench.

What I decided I wanted was something simple and small enough that would make reloading convenient and compact, even if not all that fast. I wound up putting together a "Bench in a Box".

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I keep all my extra brass, components, scale, casting stuff, and other stuff in a cabinet but, really only regularly need to use whats in the box. The box easily holds everything I'd need to load up to 500 rounds of 45 Colt in one sitting but, I usually limit it to 250 as it gets a bit hefty with 500 cast bullets in it.

At first it was just something to tide me over until I setup a bench and even maybe got a progressive. I know guys that have them and have watched them in action and they are really slick and can crank out the rounds.

However, now that I've been doing things this way for a while I think I've ruined myself for anything but slow single stage batch reloading. Being able to pull the box out and reload just about anywhere at anytime is great and convenient but, it also is tremendously satisfying to be so closely involved in each step. I like to see and handle each round as it goes through each step, double check powder in the blocks, and look over each round when its complete. Thinking about using a using a progressive now just doesn't appeal to me. It seems almost alien to just pull a handle and be so far removed from it all no different than if I was working an assembly line or stamping machine.

I batch stuff together much like geddylee10002000 does. I'll de-prime a bunch (100-500), come back later and give it a LemiShine bath, rinse and let it dry, tumble it, then later size it, and then prime it yet on another day. Then it goes into coffee cans where it waits to be loaded with what ever load and bullet I might be in the mood for. If its a rainy weekend or over the winter I might just do it all the same day.

Nice thing about breaking up the case prep and the first few steps of reloading is it can be done when I've got a bit of time to kill here and there. Since it's all done when I do go to finally put in the powder and add the bullet I can easily put out 100 rounds in an hour at that point.

It's plenty fast for me and the amount I shoot, and I shoot almost every weekend.

I may change my mind someday and decide I need to go faster but, I doubt it. For now, I like it slow, and simple. I still really like using the "Bench in a Box" and I've probably loaded ~1600 rounds at this point. In a week or two when the bench is up and running I'm sure that'll keep me happy for a long time.
 
I have not done much single stage loading in a long time. I am laid up for a while from some surgery so I figured I sure had the time! Boring!

Got out the Uniflow, loading blocks, hand primer and went at it. Very therapeutic. I especially like manually dropping the powder and then having a tray of 50 to inspect with my readers and flashlight.:) Pop in the bullets, seat them, crimp them and put em in their little boxes.

Kinda feels like hand-loading, making something, rather than just yanking a lever.

Amen! Moved recently and still haven unpacked my progressive. Using a single stage feels more like reloading than being a machine operator.
 
I've always loaded on a single stage press, for about 35 years now, and have no desire for a progressive. After a range session I resize and decap my cases, then in the tumbler they go. After tumbling I poke a piece of wire through the flash hole to clear out any media stuck in there, flare the mouth then put them back in the boxes until I'm ready to reload. When the time comes all I have to do is prime, add powder and bullets and I'm ready to go so it only takes me about 20 minutes to do fifty rounds. That's quick enough for the amount of shooting I do. It seems like every time I've read about handloading problems and kabooms its been on a progressive press. I'm just not in that much of a hurry!
 
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Yep , I like to load in large batches of 1000 or more and even though I have a Dillon 550 with set-ups for .38 , .41 mag and .45 ACP , I do my lesser volume handgun and rifle ammo single stage. I still enjoy closing the door on a rainy or cold winter nite , putting on some good music and pulling the handle one round at a time. I'll size/decap one nite , measure/trim/chamfer another , flare and prime another , and load on another. Actually , I like to sit in front of the TV and prime cases using my Lee hand primer.
 
I only started loading this year.

Hornady had a great promotion going with their Lock and Load press kit so I went that route. Since then I have upgraded to an electronic powder dispenser and that is it. I derive a great deal of satisfaction out of taking an hour to do fifty rounds. Faster is not always better. If I shot eight thousand rounds a week I might go progressive, but I do not shoot thousands of rounds a week. I have a range set up on my own land so I can shoot whenever I like. Sometimes that is only a few rounds. And if I shoot one of my autos, I can usually position my truck to serve as a brass catcher. :)
 
I'll take it off your hands, and help clean up your garage at the same time.

Noval, forget it. He probably doesn't want to get rid of it. He would much rather stumble over it and complain than let someone else get some use out of it.

But, I'm with you. Someone just asked the other day if I knew of any equipment out there that I could recommend. Free is always good and a Rock Chucker would be a good press for the 7.62X54R that this guy wants to load for!


I'll even pay shipping! :)
 
Last night I was thinking the same thing. I have a Hornady Single Stage and was quietly listening to music while working up several different loads of .38 using Hornady bullets with both W231 and BE Powder. After each round I checked the COL with a digital caliper. I did 10 rounds of each and will have something to take to the range to test. The best time to reload for me is in the evening, when it's quiet and I can go slow and focus on the quality of each cartridge. If you're reloading to keep yourself in ammo for a lot of shooting, a progressive is the way to go. For those of us who need less ammo, however, and enjoy reloading more for the sake of reloading, a good single stage is our pride and joy. The bottom line: We all enjoy guns, shooting and (for most of us) reloading. There's room under the tent for everyone.
 
Started with a kit from an outfit named "R.F. Wells" out of MN back in '62; a massive single-stage press, dies, a powder measure and scale for $42 and change. My buddy and I went together on it. I still have that big old press which is still going strong and will probably be used by my kids for years after I'm gone. I have a Rock Chucker next to it but the Force is strong in that old Wells.

As a card-carrying Luddite, I like to go slow with those old single stages; put on a Great Courses CD and zone out, making more good ammo.

Progressive loaders always remind me of the old Charlie Chaplin movie, "Modern Times".
 
Steve your sentiments are the exact reason why I love reloading, and a big reason why I get grouchy when someone asks about getting into reloading, and the responses start pouring in from the "blue team", even with no mention of volume needed or budget. Yes, Dillon makes a great product, it can produces ammo faster than single stage, and they have wonderful customer service, but not everyone cannot afford the investment start up required for a Dillion, nor has the demand for hundreds of rounds per hour of reloads. Heck I couldn't afford to feed a Dillon for that long at the rate it will crank out ammo. Also haven't bought into the "it is a lifetime investment," as the same statement applies to a good ol' single stage.
 
Noval, forget it. He probably doesn't want to get rid of it. He would much rather stumble over it and complain than let someone else get some use out of it.

But, I'm with you. Someone just asked the other day if I knew of any equipment out there that I could recommend. Free is always good and a Rock Chucker would be a good press for the 7.62X54R that this guy wants to load for!


I'll even pay shipping! :)

Bitter beer again?
 
I have a Dillon 550, which is great and I load all my 38 and 45 ammo on it, but everything else where I don't load great quantities at any time I load on my old (1950's) Texan turret loader one stage at a time. I'm retired and I even load my 9mm on it as I have time and just haven't bothered to but the conversion for the Dillon for 9mm. I agree with Rule3, it is relaxing. I put some light classical music on the CD and load some ammo.
 
I tried a progressive and never felt comfortable with it. I was always worried about powder charge and primer seating. I never did get the hang of running it, so I sold it at a loss and bought a single stage and an electronic powder dispenser. Now handloading maybe slower but much more fun. I guess that's the difference between reloading and handloading.
 
Steve your sentiments are the exact reason why I love reloading, and a big reason why I get grouchy when someone asks about getting into reloading, and the responses start pouring in from the "blue team", even with no mention of volume needed or budget. Yes, Dillon makes a great product, it can produces ammo faster than single stage, and they have wonderful customer service, but not everyone cannot afford the investment start up required for a Dillion, nor has the demand for hundreds of rounds per hour of reloads. Heck I couldn't afford to feed a Dillon for that long at the rate it will crank out ammo. Also haven't bought into the "it is a lifetime investment," as the same statement applies to a good ol' single stage.

For pistol ammo , the Dillon Square Deal used to be a very economical set-up. Ya could buy it set-up for one caliber for less than many new single stage starter kits. But I just looked at the current price and it's now more than I paid for my 550B.

If ya know what yer looking for or at , or have a good mentor , and know where to shop , ya can get really good used equipment fairly cheap. Ebay has lots of reloading stuff. Most of the gun shops I go to have a good amount of pre-owned reloading equipment from collections or estates they bought out. Farmers and flea markets sometimes have stuff as many vendors now buy out unclaimed storage units. Just because it's old , don't mean it's worn out.
 

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