Source for 4003/4006 magazines?

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I'd like to buy a spare magazine for my 4003TSW. ProMag Industries has a 4003/4006 10rd nickle plated steel mag, but everything I hear indicates this company's mags are atrocious when it comes to reliability. Anyone have firsthand experience with them? I've tried looking elsewhere but since S&W discontinued them, ProMag seems to be the only source, but maybe I'm out of the loop..
Thanks for any input.
 
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Joes Pawn has them all day long on the big auction site, however they are listed as 10 rounds, when in actuality they are 11 rounds. Since you are in CA that may be an issue.
 
I'd like to buy a spare magazine for my 4003TSW. ProMag Industries has a 4003/4006 10rd nickle plated steel mag, but everything I hear indicates this company's mags are atrocious when it comes to reliability. Anyone have firsthand experience with them? I've tried looking elsewhere but since S&W discontinued them, ProMag seems to be the only source, but maybe I'm out of the loop..
Thanks for any input.
I've got a couple brand new Pro-Mags (10-rounders) that came with one of my full-size 40's, but I've never bothered to try them. I've got enough 11-round OEM pre-bans to sink a ship so no point in sooting up brand new third party magazines that I'll probably sell or trade away someday. :cool:

S&W OEM 4000-series 10-rounders are getting awfully hard to find because of California. :( Sad to say but that large auction website is probably your best bet for finding genuine S&W OEM 10-rounders. :o

Altered 11-rounders may still be a possibility in California but I don't think anyone knows that for certain yet. :confused:
 
California is problem for mags and firearms period. It used to be ok to own/acquire "hi-cap" mags as long as they've been altered to hold ten rounds <. Now that option is in jeopardy.

Joes Pawn has them all day long on the big auction site, however they are listed as 10 rounds, when in actuality they are 11 rounds. Since you are in CA that may be an issue.
Checked Joe's Pawn Shop, all he had were 11 rounders. But thanks for the heads up.
 
that link shows mags that,I believe,are incorrectly described. The pic show the 10rd side but not the other side which would've marked 11rd. claims they're 'pinned' at ten rounds,I see no 'pinning' anywhere unless it's something internal.
I offered(via PM) the OP true S&W OEM 40S&W 10rd mags. I've been shipping a lot to California lately of the 59series,69series,& 40series 10 rounders that I acquire here at Ohio gun shows. He doesn't want used ones,he wants NEW ones,good luck with that.
 
He might be waiting awhile before he sources NEW mags. I'm in CA, and the 10 rounders were and are plenty available, USED of course.
 
that link shows mags that,I believe,are incorrectly described. The pic show the 10rd side but not the other side which would've marked 11rd. claims they're 'pinned' at ten rounds,I see no 'pinning' anywhere unless it's something internal.
Per spistols and the OP, it's clear they understand that. It's a common trick on that large auction website... i.e., claim 10 rounds for every magazine over 10 rounds. :cool: Not good if you really need a 10-rounder to comply with the law in your moonbat state. :(

I offered(via PM) the OP true S&W OEM 40S&W 10rd mags. I've been shipping a lot to California lately of the 59series,69series,& 40series 10 rounders that I acquire here at Ohio gun shows. He doesn't want used ones,he wants NEW ones,good luck with that.
A brand-new-unused-in-package OEM magazine is going to be awfully tough to find. I'm sure some are out there somewhere. Just got to get really lucky. :cool:
 
And have a lot of money. :eek:
Well, it certainly wouldn't hurt, but luck is the key in this case. I've scoured MA, Southern NH and almost all of RI and come up pretty darn empty. Haven't tried CT yet but I think you need a pistol permit issued in CT to buy any magazine down there these days. :(
 
New OEM 3rd gen mags,I guess that would be like going today to a General Motors,Ford,Chrysler dealer and demanding NEW OEM parts for your 1990s' vehicle. That's what junkyards/boneyards are for to get used still serviceable parts just like gun shows are for acquiring used still serviceable magazines.
 
That analogy doesn't hold up very well. I might not be able to get new parts for a Dodge Intrepid, but I'd be able to get most service parts aftermarket at my nearby auto parts store. I could even get repro body parts for many cars.

There are aftermaket magazines for S&W guns, but overall they aren't that good. There are aftermarket spring kits for 3rd Gens, which seem okay. Try finding an aftermarket guide rod for a 4516.

Of course, GM, Ford, Chrysler also never offered a "lifetime" warranty.

New OEM 3rd gen mags,I guess that would be like going today to a General Motors,Ford,Chrysler dealer and demanding NEW OEM parts for your 1990s' vehicle. That's what junkyards/boneyards are for to get used still serviceable parts just like gun shows are for acquiring used still serviceable magazines.
 
I offered(via PM) the OP true S&W OEM 40S&W 10rd mags. I've been shipping a lot to California lately of the 59series,69series,& 40series 10 rounders that I acquire here at Ohio gun shows. He doesn't want used ones,he wants NEW ones,good luck with that.
I thanked you for your offer, but thanks again, the sarcasm is very helpful...
I've found the most unlikely NOS gun parts...patience and a little luck is the key.

that link shows mags that,I believe,are incorrectly described. The pic show the 10rd side but not the other side which would've marked 11rd. claims they're 'pinned' at ten rounds,I see no 'pinning' anywhere unless it's something internal.
If so he is risking prosecution if they are shipped to a California resident - exporting mags with 10 + capacity is a violation of state law by both the seller and buyer. Good luck with that.
 
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Totally agree it is an extremely slippery slope if any of these "10" round, actually "11" round mags sold via that large e auction site were shipped to CA, NY, or MA, or any other 10 round mandatory state. Auction/ad says 370 sold. I would bet that a good amount of those went to the above states for the sole reason as them being advertised as "10" round mags. Wonder if that auction site cares or not?
 
Totally agree it is an extremely slippery slope if any of these "10" round, actually "11" round mags sold via that large e auction site were shipped to CA, NY, or MA, or any other 10 round mandatory state. Auction/ad says 370 sold. I would bet that a good amount of those went to the above states for the sole reason as them being advertised as "10" round mags. Wonder if that auction site cares or not?
The auction website is covered by the fact that the seller lied about what they were selling. The seller doesn't care because they aren't located in an anti-2A moonbat state. I don't think that one moonbat state's anti-2A laws can be used to charge a seller in a different non-moonbat state (although there is no doubt that certain legal pressures could be applied to stop doing it - we've seen that done). In the end, it's really only the buyer in the moonbat state that could get in trouble buying a magazine that is illegal for non-LEOs to possess where he or she lives. :o

It's an open secret on that auction website that hi-cap magazines are routinely sold as 10-rounders to satisfy the website's official "no hi-caps" policy. The key is the photo. Buyers need to know what their desired magazine looks like. :cool:
 
Per the auction site's policy, you are not allowed to sell magazines holding more than 10 rounds. If you list an 11 round magazine, then the auction gets flagged, pulled, and you get a warning. The seller is openly deceiving the auction site as well as any potential buyer, especially when the buyer in a 10 round state can be heavily fined and penalized.
 
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Just found a unused NOS new in original package 4013TSW magazine. :) Now for a 4003.

Per the auction site's policy, you are not allowed to sell magazines holding more than 10 rounds.

Also from Ebay:
"High capacity magazines modified to accept 10 rounds or less are also prohibited unless permanently modified by the manufacturer."

So essentially, any 10+ mags modified/limited to 10rds are prohibited, unless the seller can prove they came that way from the mfgr. I don't know of any mags that came pre-modified, but I guess it's possible.

The auction website is covered by the fact that the seller lied about what they were selling.
Since the auction website is only a facilitator and not the actual seller, they aren't legally responsible for sellers that offer items for sale that may be illegal in certain states. However an aggressive AG in that state could argue otherwise, e.g. conspiracy by the seller and auction website to violate the law.

The seller doesn't care because they aren't located in an anti-2A moonbat state. I don't think that one moonbat state's anti-2A laws can be used to charge a seller in a different non-moonbat state (although there is no doubt that certain legal pressures could be applied to stop doing it - we've seen that done). In the end, it's really only the buyer in the moonbat state that could get in trouble buying a magazine that is illegal for non-LEOs to possess where he or she lives.
It can be done through creative measures, but usually a warning letter from the states AG is sufficient enough to to make them stop selling to the anti gun state in question. Pressure from a SF city attorney forced out of state sellers of magazine repair kits to stop selling to CA residents since those "kits" were actually disassembled standard capacity magazines.

Since California recently added new mag law language that prohibits the buying, buyers of 10+ mags are now easier to prosecute. (The old language only prohibited the selling, giving, lending, of 10+ mags.)
 
Check Midway. I bought several S&W factory CS 45 magazines from them.
 
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