SP primers in 45ACP????

[MWAG]

picked up some spent brass at the range the other day and i found some CBC brass in 45acp that takes small pistol primers, what's up with that?? also the hole between the primer pocket and the powder charge is much larger than a normal large pistol primer 45acp. i have reprimed these with sp primers with my ram prime and they made a clicking sound just as the primer became fully seated. i have never had this happen before with any case i've reloaded. maybe somebody left them laying on the ground for a reason, i don't know.

 

[sig2009]

As far as I am concerned that type brass goes in the scrap brass bucket. I don't use it.

 

[MWAG]

do you mean cbc brass or brass that is not normally configured??? it's my understanding that cbc is good brass, lots of 500 mag commercial loads use it.

 

[LoboGunLeather]

I recall reading some time ago about .45 ACP brass with small primer pockets, European brand if my memory serves.

If you have a significant quantity it might be worth some testing to see how they function (for range loads), ignition, primers backing out, etc.

If not, probably not worth the time and effort.

 

[Roadranger]

Winchester loads 45 ammo with small pistol primers in its NonToxic loads. I've used it with excellent results, you just have to sort it. I use it exclusively for my 45acp revolver loads in my M625 and M22. Even the lightest N frame hammer will fire a small pistol primer and a small primer will certainly ignite 5gr. TiteGroup. Yes, it blew my mind when I first encountered it, but it loads straight away in my 550, simply change to small primers. Apparently, WW only makes its non toxic primers in small, hence the use in the 45. The WW brass is marked with a NT on the headstamp. Bob!!!

 

[MWAG]

this CBC brass is marked "45 auto CBC". can i use the same published loads that i use in my LPP brass?????

 

[n4zov]

I can't think of any reason that SP primers would not be adequate in the .45 ACP. Most .45 loads use fairly small quantities of fast to medium burning powders. If a SP primer can ignite 14 grains of 2400 in .357 loads, it should be adequate in the .45 with more easily ignited powders.

 

[Forsmithers]

A buddy of mine gave me a bunch of brass the other day. There were over 100 Speer marked .45 Auto cartridge cases with small pistol primers and they looked like that had already been tumbled. There was also a Federal NT (Non Toxic) .45 Auto casing that also had a small pistol primer in it although it had the normal burned powder residue on it.

I called my friend and he said that the Speer ammo was their lead free ammo and he was also amazed at how clean it was. Even the inside of the case near the primer hole was clean like it had been tumbled! I guess that the small pistol primers, different powder and non toxic or non lead projectile is making for some "clean" shooting ammo.

I also intend on loading up a batch with the small pistol primers to see if I can see any difference between those rounds and their big brothers with the large pistol primers. I will report back after I have a chance to try them out.

 

[MWAG]

yeah, i'm loadin' mine up too. your right they are clean inside & out and mine have what looks like some kinda white sand or sawdust particles stuck to the inside of the cases. at first i thought it might be cornmeal or cream o wheat..............

 

[RV4driver]

The only ones I've seen with small primers are the NT ones. However, I've seen some "non" NT cases with regular large pistol pockets that were absolutely clean and shiny inside. Wierd. Wonder what powder they use to get that result. I like to think it's wildly inaccurate. But that's just me.

What you don't want to do, is miss one of those, and try to cram a regular LP primer into that small pocket.

Jeff