Star/Astra handguns

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Am I the only one on here that thinks that the Star Firestar and Astra A70/75 are some of the most under-rated firearms out there?

Too bad they are out of business, however parts are still readily available, but rarely are needed.........

Randy
 
I have a Star. I don't know what model.

It is a 9mm, pretty compact and is very similar to a 1911.

It locks up with a single lug, the barrel has a shroud, it uses a bushing just like a 1911, but the trigger is hinged at the top, and not like the 1911 with a trigger bow and a rearward travel to disconnect the sear. Plus it has an external extractor.

It's pretty neat! The blueing is really good and has stood up to an amazing amount of abuse. Since the pistol was cheap, it's been treated rough and it still looks good. Still shoots mighty fine too.
 
Never seen a Astra A70/75 in real life..heard they were a Sig style pistol?

I like the Firestar..have owned a .45acp version and would buy a 9mm if one popped up.
 
I had a Star PD, a light weight reduced sized 1911. Nice gun, but no leather was available for it back then. (And no internet to search for holster-makers either.)
 
I had an Astra A75. All steel, single stack, compact, traditional DA. Nice gun. Had a Star Model O in 9X21 also a nice solid pistola.
 
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Still have my Star PD I bought used at a pawn shop in Fort Worth in 1988, and still carry it occasionally in a custom Tom Threepersons holster or two I had made by Bob Mika. Great gun. At one point I put over 20k rounds through it over a little more than two year period. The bushing is a bit worn and I have a spare but don't yet feel compelled to put it in. I used it to qualify for Texas CHL. I do have two recoil spring/guide sets, one for range, one for carry. Still have some original buffers, but the Wilson blue ones can be used as well.
 
I have yet to see a major improvement, with all the various versions of the chopped 45 cal. 1911s out there, over the original Star PD. Accurate, light, reliable and cheap. Hold a #10 can at 50 yards. Have had three. Still have one. Carry a Kimber 5" CDP, but the Star is not for sale.

Regards,

Tam 3
 
I have a Star BKS in my collection that I purchased back in 1980. Awesome pistol!
 
I have an old Llama that has very little info online about it. Its a full size 1911 style 9mm. Wish someone would write a book on Llama pistols. From what little info there is its supposed to be a model that was used in the Spanish civil war and only sold outside Spain to a few Asian countries.

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I have owned several Spanish handguns

A Astra Constable in .22 LR that I swapped for a HB S&W #10, which I still own. Two Star PD's way back in my younger years, along with these two. All of these guns were well made and functioned perfectly.

A Astra 75L 9mm former LE evidence gun, cost me $65.00. I spent another $35.00 for two mags from Numrich.
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Kind of rusty and pitted on the right hand side.
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After a bit of clean-up work and some grill paint. I sold this gun when I bought my first S&W #908.
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A Star Firestar M40 .40 S&W. I recently decided to divest myself of this caliber, so I sold it. This was a fine little compact pistol, reasonably accurate, though a bit heavy.
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My dad has a Star model P, which is the 1911 clone with no grip safety, and I had a Star model B in 9mm. They were ok. Fit and finish was lacking. My dad's model P developed a crack in the frame under the forward section of the slide and I convinced him to stop shooting it.

I traded my model B years back for something. Dont really regret the sale.
 
I used to have an Astra A-100, which I really liked, but sold it after my first divorce.

I now have a Star Firestar 40, like the one in ColbyBruces post, and like it a lot more. I'm not a big fan of DA autos.
 
Nothing wrong with the better Spanish marques. Astra and Star both made pistols and parts for Colt at various times. I like the M-43 Firestar so much , I bought a second one when I found it LNIB for $225 OTD,

Had the two-toned one for over 20yrs.
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One of the distributors was blowing out their Star guns and I bought this M30 (top) for $200 brand new. This thing is built like a freakin' tank and can take the hottest loads. One gun magazine did a 5000rd torture test on one. It passed with flying colors and actually showed better accuracy afterwards. Was a very nice blue , but I wanted something different. I did it in grey-parkerizing with teflon coat and the small parts in black.

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The WWII Astra 600 (bottom) was my first Spanish pistol and (and speaking as a toolmaker myself) ,is a very impressive piece of machine work , if somewhat wonky external design.

There were a combination of reasons for the demise of Spanish arms companies and sales.

Ironically , only Llama is still making guns.



Llama's rate right up there with Taurus, AFAIC.
 
The M30 is a great HD weapon. Good capacity and very easy to shoot. I currently own a Star Ultrastar, a peculiar steel and polymer hybrid compact. They have a rep for breaking the trigger return spring (metallurgy issue?) so I bought a Sig piece that looks about right as a spare. Haven't had to use it yet.
 
Be aware that many Spanish pistols do not have inertial firing pins. If the hammer is down, the firing pin is resting on or very near the primer of the CTG. in the chamber! If the gun is dropped, even with safety on, it may fire! :eek:

I used a Star Model B 9mm for a time. I basically liked it, but noted that the underside of the slide had some scratch marks, as if someone had used a nail to see if the slide was too soft. Pretty unsettling... (This gun was on loan from the importer; was not a used one.)

If I didn't need the money more for other guns, I'd cheerfully buy a Star Model BM, a Model B or BS, and a M-30. Add a Super S in .380. Had GCA '68 not banned importation based on size, I'd love a smaller .380 Star. And I like the Astra .25 imported by Colt.

I called the shooting range cited in an Intearms ad for the Star M-30. That rental gun had fired well over 100,000 rounds when I talked to them, with only minor parts replacement. The range spokesman told me that Star guns did well by them, and rental guns usually get a pounding, compared to those in private use. The importer also gave excellent customer service, according to them. The M-30 looks more like a SIG, but is based on the CZ -75.

I was surprised and interested to see that thriller author Peter O'Donnell (who is British) had his fictional heroine Modesty Blaise trade her Colt .32 for a Star PD .45 in later books. (She preferred a S&W M-57 .41 Magnum for longer range use.) Also was very proficient with unarmed combat and in use of the yawara stick, one of which she carried disguised as a purse handle that snapped free for use as a weapon. I think that the author read US gun magazines. His firearms knowledge was well above that of most thriller writers. He certainly did more research than Sir Arthur Conan Doyle did! And maybe more than Ian Fleming. Anyway, the guns in those books were well chosen, and I was pleased to see the choice of the Star, although it might be a trifle large to carry, for a woman of about five feet seven and maybe 117 pounds.

I think Modesty would have been better served by a Star .380 in one of the smaller models banned here after GCA '68, like the Model DS, if memory serves. It'd hide better on her slim frame.

I do think that Star and Astra guns are usually well made, although the firing pin issue and the occasional parts hardness factors trouble me. I certainly like Star having dispensed with the grip safety in Colt copies, which also differed in other regards. I have read that the trigger and safety designs were also superior to those used by Colt. But build quality is as important as design quality!

A very well known US gun and hunting writer told me that he had a chance to visit Llama and had bought one of their copies of an S&W revolver. I think it was the Comanche model. Similar to the S&W M-19. He felt that it was very well made, a pleasant surprise. It did need re-timing, but that was also a very serious problem with Colt and S&W guns then, too. Sloppy QC! Astra's equivalent revolver has also gotten generally good reviews, as did their smaller (J-frame equivalent) item. (Model Cadix.)

The Spaniards made some very nice highly decorated guns, many gold -Damascened and engraved. One chrome-plated Star 9mm was used in a Pedro Amoldovar-directed movie. It was brandished in a bar, not a good idea. But the owner was not a good man, either. The woman who killed him later hid the gun in her TV before she fell in love with the judge investigating her case. I wish I could recall the name of that film. I'd like to rent it again. Sound familiar to anyone? It's in Castilian Spanish, of course. I think it may be available with English subtitles. Well worth a look.
 
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Nothing wrong with the better Spanish marques. ...
The WWII Astra 600 (bottom) was my first Spanish pistol and (and speaking as a toolmaker myself) ,is a very impressive piece of machine work , if somewhat wonky external design.

There were a combination of reasons for the demise of Spanish arms companies and sales.

Ironically , only Llama is still making guns.



Llama's rate right up there with Taurus, AFAIC.


I think Llama is kaput also. 2004/05 somewhere in there.
Maybe they've come back 'under new managment'! I don't keep up with the new stuff much.
Star and Astra folded in the 90's

I've had many Astra and Star semiautos. I still have a couple Star pistols left, ,, Model F 22 auto models.
I found Star to be very nice pistols and always something a bit different, even if only in size from what the other mfg'rs offered.

A lot of Star pistols sold as new in the late 80s and early 90's in the USA were rehabed Spanish gov't trade-in's. Mostly Model S and it's variations, A & B Super and a few others.
Part of a deal w/the Spanish Gov't which included the contract w/Star for their new 9mm Service auto (M30?)


Of the Llama pistols, the small frame 'Especial' was the only one that ever interested me. The small 1911 look-a-like. I had several from different era's in 22lr and a few in 32acp and 380acp.
The WW2 German marked 32's will get a good price.
The 22's were and are still good sellers. Good shooters too.
 
Sarco still has some of these but not at give away prices.
 
I have an Astra A-80 in .45 that I bought new in the mid-1980's. It's basically a P-220 knockoff. Very dependable and accurate.
 
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