Steel Cases

[roundgun]

Anyone reloaded these nickel-aluminum-stainless steel (NAS3) cases? I've read a few articles on how this is going to kill the brass case as we know it. Claiming go to up to 40 reloads? Sounds like it requires special dies and adapters for your DIY presses.

 

[Nevada Ed]

I will stay with the "Softer" brass case when using my dies.

Why work harder than you have to, forming steel?

 

[roundgun]

The main reason I am attracted to steel cases is the ability to pick them up out of the gravel with a magnet. Easier to collect large quantities at my range.

 

[Mikeinkaty]

I reloaded a steel 357 mag case and it shot fine. The case looked good afterwards. I don't plan on making this a general thing though. I have probably 10 lbs I picked out of range brass. It felt and behaved just like brass when reloading it.

 

[Rule3]

I believe the OP is talking about these

Shell Shock (stainless alloy)

Shell Shock Technologies | Innovative Ammunition Technologies

There are several threads on this. To darn expensive and you need to buy their special dies.

I myself have no use for them

 

[apollo99]

I say why reinvent the wheel when the old one works so well.

 

[gwpercle]

Sticker Shock.....at the prices for "special dies" and the "new & improved cases" I wont be jumping into that pool.
My local indoor range sells 1500 once fired for $12.00. I'l stick with reloading them 20 times. I usually loose them in the grass before I wear them out. Most damage comes from hitting the concrete floor at both indoor and outdoor range.
Gary

 

[2152hq]

First I've heard of these,,should get out of the cave more often.

I thought the posting was going to be about reloading military steel cases like in 45acp. That works OK but I don't see much advantage to it when the brass stuff is available, cheaper
You can still use your $25 a set dies to reload the older steel cases.
I wouldn't be wildly crazy about buying all new dies at high prices to go along with new higher priced steel cases too. I doubt they'd be making them in stuff like 9.3x72R and 25Remington,,you know,, important rounds.

All that could change if the price of brass for some reason goes crazy or we send every scrap of it to China as a friendship offering, or the EPA decides empty brass casings on the ground pose a threat to wildlife like spent lead. Not too far fetched I guess in these times.

Maybe the Military will be a big buyer,,they like new stuff especially if it costs more.
But then what will they use to make trench art out of. The brass stuff works so nicely and solders easily.
Another fine art potentially lost to the ages.

 

[StakeOut]

New 9mm NAS3 cases are half the price of New Starline Brass cases.

The 9mm sizing and Flaring die set is too expensive and maybe only the carbide sizer is needed?
https://www.shellshocktechnologies....ger-sizing-and-flaring-dies-for-shell-shocks-
nas3-cases/

Loading NAS3 cases on a Dillon 650
[ame]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M1uhPtfCDFU[/ame]

 

[fredj338]

Standard steel cases just don't reload the same as brass over time. They also cause more wear on your dies. You can feel the diff resizing steel vs brass. SO hopefully no, we won't be switching.

 

[2152hq]

From their desciption of the sizer die, it pushes the sized case back out of the die by use of a rod down the center and thru the die.
Pressing on the inside bottom of the case pushing it from the die, not using the case rim to pull the casing from the die.
For what reason they need to do that instead of using the case rim?,,perhaps the non-elasticity (right word?) of the case material.
It says their special dies can also be used for brass cases.
Kind of interesting stuff I admit. Reloading is a gageteers hobby.

$60/500 unprimed 9mm cases,,I guess that's OK, I really don't know brass prices. I just looked at Starline,,$74/500 w/free shipping.
But I've never bought a single 9mmLuger case in my life unless you count a few boxes of factory stuff over the years and then reloaded them.
Might catch on,,might go the way of the Tround.

 

[fredj338]

Who buys new service caliber brass?? Once fired is half price. I don't think I have ever bought new service caliber brass, not in 40yrs of reloading. New 10mm or magnums yes, new hunting or precision rifle, yes.

 

[roundgun]

I believe the OP is talking about these

Shell Shock (stainless alloy)

Shell Shock Technologies | Innovative Ammunition Technologies

There are several threads on this. To darn expensive and you need to buy their special dies.

I myself have no use for them

Correct. I was not referring to the traditional steel econo stuff. Sorry for the mix up.

 

[BlueOvalBandit]

From their desciption of the sizer die, it pushes the sized case back out of the die by use of a rod down the center and thru the die.
Pressing on the inside bottom of the case pushing it from the die, not using the case rim to pull the casing from the die.
For what reason they need to do that instead of using the case rim?,,perhaps the non-elasticity (right word?) of the case material.

It's because of the way they are manufactured. What you can't see is the SS body forms a "nipple" at the bottom. The two pieces are then joined by crimping the SS tube in the flash hole. A result of that is that crimp doesn't like being pulled hard on since it is the only part joining the rim to the body.

 

[StakeOut]

IMO if they want to sell their cases they need to sell the dies at a price equal to other dies.At $99 for the 2 piece set it's a " No Sale "