stupid moon clip question

[subvet69]

Today I started having misfires in a 686+ PC. I didn't have the moon clips with me, and prior to this I have had maybe one in five hundred rounds. I hate misfires, makes me get jerky. Next week I will try with them, these misfires are not acceptable.

 

[Pizza Bob]

Today I started having misfires in a 686+ PC. I didn't have the moon clips with me, and prior to this I have had maybe one in five hundred rounds. I hate misfires, makes me get jerky. Next week I will try with them, these misfires are not acceptable.

The misfires are more likely your strain screw backing out - with or without the clip the rim is still headspacing on the outer rim of the cylinder.

 

[subvet69]

After looking at, the clips don't have any effect on this. Is the strain screw in the handle?

 

[subvet69]

Yep, it was backed out. Tightened and applied blue locktite. I had some screw problems on my Ruger too. Fixed it the same way. Back to the range.

 

[WC145]

Sorry to bump this old thread, but I am very curious about a 586 l comp. I would probably use the moon clips for when I carry it. But at the range it would just be loose ammo. With just that small outer ring supporting the case rim, does that cause undo stress on the casings? I mean is the rest of the case have an air gap underneath it? Sorry for he novice question

I have a 586 L comp 7 round cut for moonclips. If I carry the gun for work I load the cylinder with the moonclip. Beyond that, I carry an extra speedstrip or two. I find trying to push seven long rounds of .357 that are moving around into a cylinder with seven holes to be a ht or miss proposition, especially under stress.

I do like the the fact the first cylinder full loaded in a moonclip will eject in one easy motion.

In anybody is unaware, these guns do not need the moonclips to function.

I have and have had several guns that either required the use of moonclips or gave you the option, including a 586 L-Comp. The problem with moonclips and .38spls/.357mags is that the rounds are kinds of long and spindly and it's hard to get them all lined up with the charge holes at once. And, naturally, the more of them, the harder it is, kind of like trying to hold a spider by the body and push all of it's legs into the holes. I had a gunsmith chamfer the charge holes fairly aggresively in my L-Comp and that helped a lot with loading moonclipped rounds. Speedloaders hold the rounds more stable and, in general, it's easier to load .38/.357 revolvers with them.

My 9mm and .45ACP revolvers are the complete opposite, the stubby, rounder profile cartridges are practically sucked in into the cylinders when loading with moonclips.

That said, the L-Comp is a great revolver, however you work out your reloads.

 

[Pizza Bob]

The problem with moonclips and .38spls/.357mags is that the rounds are kinds of long and spindly and it's hard to get them all lined up with the charge holes at once. And, naturally, the more of them, the harder it is, kind of like trying to hold a spider by the body and push all of it's legs into the holes. I had a gunsmith chamfer the charge holes fairly aggresively in my L-Comp and that helped a lot with loading moonclipped rounds. Speedloaders hold the rounds more stable and, in general, it's easier to load .38/.357 revolvers with them

You've discovered half the solution to loading long cartridges with moon clips - chamfered charge holes. Of course that facilitates any type of loading method. In order to optimize loading long cartridges with clips, you have to stick to one head stamp and then find the clips that hold that brand the most rigidly. Hearthco are among the best clips and he makes them for specific brands of brass. Expensive, but worth it.

Adios,

Pizza Bob