Super Vel Ammo..........

Diamondback,

Welcome to the Forum.

If your ammo was stored in reasonable temperatures and it hasn't been exposed to any penetrating liquids such as WD40, it should fire OK. I would restrict it to the range and not trust it for self defense, however. If the Browning is in good condition, it should be fine to fire the Super-Vel in it.

Bob
 
I have half a box of .380 Super Vel JHP from around 1972. Is it still live and can it still be fired in my Browning .380 auto circa 1960's, made in Belgium. Any info would be appreciated.

I have some German 8mm mauser ammo dated 1934 that is
still alive and full power. I still have part of a box of .45 acp
Super Vel HP ammo I bought around 1972 along with 15 rounds of .380 HPs left in the original box. If they have been
stored properly I tkink you should consider them to be as
live as if you bought them yesterday. I have some military
surplus 9mm ammo by Lapua that is dated 1959. Great stuff,
very consistent, have fired several hundred rounds without a
single missfire.
 
Very confused....

Here is what I don't get. In post #18 on page one of this thread, Bob relates a story of killing armadillo. In post #19 on page #1 of this thread, armadillo makes his very own post. Very strange.....
 
Old gruff cops with big heavy S&W Model 28's pulling down their belts, leather saps, gigantic flashlights that took twelve D cells (I'm exagerating), leather dress shoes with heavy rubber soles put on by a local shoe shop, huge patrol cars with V8 engines and a single light dome on top, big cluncky radar units and brown "night sticks"

Keerful thar Sonny, I resemble them fellers. *G*

Right after I quit law enforcement and went back to ranching, the outfit I worked for issued brand new Model 66's and Super Vel ammo. They had a policy of practicing with what they carried. They shot those model 66's loose in just a few years and traded them in for 9mm autos.

I was glad I was gone.

That's me too. My first duty gun was a 4" Highway Patrolman and you could get "sap pockets" sewn on the side of your uniform pants if so ordered. Kel-Lite D-Cells were the way to go and the "portable" (I use the term loosely) handheld radio was generally too big to put in your back pocket, but life was good and we owned the streets.
 
I only ever had one box of .357 Super Vel ammo that I sold, but I found these at a gun show about two years ago, I loaded them up and carry them in my 27-2. I figure the box is a nice little keepsake for my collection.

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I still remember my uncle telling me about having super vels in his nickle plated colt trooper everytime he would put it in the truck.He always said they were the hottest bullets made.
 
Was the Super Vel .38 Special also available with a 158 flat nose Jacketed bullet?
I just acquired 2000 .38 Special Super Vels that were LEO turn in's from a retired Range Officer. The bullets look like 158's. I may pull one apart and confirm........

Thanks all!

Randy
 
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I saw a 16 year old girl minutes after she was shot with a .357 Super Vel round from about 6 feet away. Round went through her left breast, out her back and disintegrated against a cement basement wall. Slapped some tin foil and tape on her and took her to the hospital and a few days later she wasn't must worse for wear.
 
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I pulled one down and it is a 110 grain jacketed flat point, not the 158 I thought it resembled.

What is the going rate of this ammo in today's market? It has been re-boxed into some older Peters ammo boxes which I know affects the value.

Randy
 
I have a box of 45 auto that was made in Evansvill IN in the 1940.I do not know who made then! I put then up and did not look to see who made them. I will look at them the next time.
 
Was the Super Vel .38 Special also available with a 158 flat nose Jacketed bullet?
I just acquired 2000 .38 Special Super Vels that were LEO turn in's from a retired Range Officer. The bullets look like 158's. I may pull one apart and confirm........

Thanks all!

Randy

I have never documented a 158JSP in 38Spl., just the standard 110JHP/JSP.

The heavyweights in 38Spl that I know of are 158LRN, 158SWC and the 158SWC "Kopper Koat" Police International Load.
 
Back when I started as a cop in 1975 we were issued 158gr RNL in our Model 10s. Off duty I carried a Model 65 and the first box I bought was 110gr 357mag. Super-Vel. We thought it was the second coming compared to what we were using. I put thousands of rounds through that 65 with SV. Never had a problem. Now when I carry my F-Comp I still use 110gr 357mag, Remington or Winchester.
 
Rome,Ga.- Saturday-June 10,1972.

I had given my best friend some of the 110 gr. Super Vels which he alternated in every other chamber of his Mod.10.
-Motorcycle Division. It had started raining early and he and another motor officer shared a car. After working a hit and run,they found the car at a location known to be the residence of a HUGE man. Two of his sons lived there also
and they all were trouble.They were grave diggers and house painters and had made open threats to police,and had stated several times that they would kill the next officer to come to their house.

Upon arrival the partner officer was interviewing one of the sons through the screen door,when he was invited in.
As he entered,he was attacked by the father who weighed over 350 lbs.,and the other son.He was beaten with a logging chain,his saftey strap came loose and his Mod.19 fell to the floor.
My friend rushed in to assist ,grabbed one of the sons(these were not kids but grown men) and slung him across the room. As this was happening the other son picked up the fallen Mod.19 and shot my friend in the abdomen,knocking him across the room. Before the gun had hit the floor there had been a fight over it,and Officer 1 was shot in the hand while holding the barrel,creating a large channel across the breadth of his palm.

The shooter threw the gun down and ran out the door.My friend was lying against a wall across the room. He had been hit with a 158gr. 357 lead semi wadcutter.
The father picked up the dropped gun and said"I'm going to shoot this one again."indicating the first officer.
My friend was able to draw his revolver and fire one round into the father just above the right kidney.It happened to be one of the Super Vels that cycled around. The bullet entered above the kidney travelled upward and barely broke through the skin at the top of the right shoulder.
Officer 1 stated later that when the giant was shot he fell straight backward,dead before he hit the floor,and when he did hit it shook the walls so bad that every picture on the walls fell to the floor. The second son ran,and Officer 1,severly wounded, made his way to the patrol car and called for help indicating an officer down.We did not have individual walkies then.
My friend died during transport to the hospital.It's still kind of hard to talk about this.
Point simply being that in this case the lightweight Super Vel did it's job well.And,unfortunately in this case,so did a heavy non expanding semi wadcutter magnum load.
We have the advantage of better ammo than either one today,but when a bullet actually enters a body,anything can happen.I learned this by attending and photographing autopsies of shooting victims for several years while in the detective division.
Last year I had the priveledge of walking with my friend's daughter to place the white rose on his marker at the annual Law Enforcement Officer's Memorial Observation. She was two years old when he was killed.

Harlow Douglas Meers
Rome Police Dept.
Rome,Ga.
Killed in the Line of Duty
June 10,1972

NEVER FORGET.
 
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Your kidding right? Is this proof Im old as dirt? Is this proof no ones teaching enough new people to shoot and the history therof? I gotta get some proselytes.......
 
My new find

I found a local ad from a dude that was selling these two boxes for $40.00 total.

Picked it up for $30.00 total.

Pretty stoked. The boxes are mint.

1 - 50rnd box of 110 Grn JSP
1 - 50rnd box of 110 Grn JHP

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I really enjoyed reading through this post.
 
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