sw .45 cqb

ericlw

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I bought a sw .45 cqb performance center. Could someone tell me more about this gun?I got the all black version in alluminum. I read somewhere these are kinda rare. does anyknow know how many were made? i got it used but looks brand new.any info would be nice.

thanks.
 
Welcome to the forum! :)

Congrats on your 45 CQB! Very nice S&W 45 pistol to have.

They are kinda scarce. 200 of the all black 4563 45 CQB made in 1997 or 1998 IIRC. Lew Horton guns. Folks who own them tend to keep them.

I use synthetic grease on the rails to prevent wear.

Mine is a very accurate 45. Enjoy yours! Regards 18DAI.
 
alright..what do you think their current value is? i found some of the serial numbers start with cqb and pcz whats the difference even though they look the same?

i took it apart and my serial number ends with 78. the barrel and slide is marked with a #70 did i get screw or just means the barrel and slide match each other and the frame # doesnt matter?

I checked it for tightness before i bought it and it seems good.

i was looking at a sw 1911 PC but i saw this one and i really like the 3rg gen sw autos.I have a 4513tsw and the 9mm version 39xx.
 
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Theres only one black 4563 PC 45 CQB with a PCZ serial prefix, mine. :)

It was the prototype and was used in the 2001 American Handgunner article. Value on that one is.........a whole bunch! ;) But its not for sale.

As to a LNIB 4563 Black PC 45 CQB with original box I'd say anywhere from $850 to $1100.

Locally, the only other one I've seen in the last eighteen months brought $850. Hope this helps! Regards 18DAI.
 
Both of my PC 45s have a number etched into the frame, barrel and slide that has no relation to the serial number. It has to be a fitting number so that those three parts stay together during manufacture.


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did someone say mandatory pics. it is a CQB!!!!!!!!!!!

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did someone say mandatory pics. it is a CQB!!!!!!!!!!!

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Naw, this is...
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I have several PC semi-autos and none have an assembly number that matches the serial number. I have one that is one digit apart but none closer than that. I assume that the assembly numbers always match. At least, I've not seen one yet that didn't.

This one says "348" on the inside but has a two digit serial number.
 
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We simply enjoy seeing pics of great pistols. Especially the rare ones. And they make great screensavers too.

I remember seeing one of these on a shelf years ago, when I had the money. And I didn't buy it! Arrghh!!

well I didnt really want to buy another gun quite yet but i saw it and knew it was somthing different.i will take some pics tonight.
 
Hello ericlw, I have an all black alloy-framed CQB a few serial numbers away from yours. The internal numbers just insure the matched parts stay together during manufacture. I carried mine 40+ hours a week for almost two years. It has never malfunctioned. The frame rails have worn a bit, which slightly loosened the frame to slde fit, but still an excellent gun. I liked it so well that I purchased an all stainless CQB. My all stainless is serial numbered just under 200 and is the highest numbered "CQB" prefix I have seen.

My reference indicates 100 all black alloy, 100 all stainless and 200 of the alloy-framed two tone were made. All the stainless-framed and all the all black alloy-framed CQBs I have seen had "CQB" serial number prefixes. All the two tones with alloy frames I have seen had "CQC" serial number prefixes.

Within the last year, I have seen a NIB all black alloy-framed CQB offered for sale by a SWCA member at a small local gun show. The asking price was $800.00. I thought this was VERY reasonable and would not have hesitated to buy it, if I didn't already own two CQBs.
 
yea i found all my numbers match. i took it to shot today and seems pretty good. i noticed one thing. after the first round somthing would gouging the heck out of the guide rod. i took it apart and found the spring was cut and the end was never filed smooth and had a burr on it.


Can someone tell me if theirs is just cut off and filed or they took the time to close the spring on both ends? my spring just has one end closed.



thanks.
 
Can someone tell me if theirs is just cut off and filed or they took the time to close the spring on both ends? my spring just has one end closed.

thanks.

this is typical of mass produced items.

take a screwdriver and a jewelers file.

use the screwdriver to separate the spring coiling at the end and use the file to dress the cut end of the spring smooth.

also remember....when it comes time to replacing recoil springs....this is a 4" gun, not a 4.25". you have to get recoils springs from SW and tell them its a 4" CQB 4563 and not a 4.25" TSW 4563.
 
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CQBs are great pistols. Congratulations.

Did someone say pictures?

Here's my CQB:

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I happened across an article from GUNS mag from 1999 starring the 45 CQB, this has now become my MUST HAVE S&W!
 
I carried a alloy framed CQB on duty from 2000 to 2005, only parking it for sentimental reasons.

From a standpoint of durability, accuracy, reliability, pointability and in no specific order, the SW CQB is one of the best DA first shot autos out there.

If I have anything negative to say about this particular model...

this is a weapon named CQB (Close Quarters Battle)...it should have come factory with night sights.

sharp edges-OUCH!!!! to be a quick handling weapon out of the duty holster....it needs to be dehorned. sharp corners are good for those who like those particular features....but CQB means fast handling.

hammer bite-having large hands, my web meat would get bit. I tried a 4516 hammer but had misfires. wanting it 100%...my only option was to dremel a factory hammer spur to maintain additional weight. I was planning to get an older heavier 645/4506 non mim/non skeletonized hammer if this did not work and have the spur reduced to avoid hammer bit. (but this was with any spurred hammer SW semi I owned)

grips/or factory slipperies. SW needed to utilize a 645 back strap design and tap for grip screws or bushings and have grip options. of course an application of grip tape or spray grit increases grip retention at the cost of looks. but CQB should be more functional than pretty.

light rail-not popular when this gun was manufactured and small full time weapon lights were hitting the market around that time. it would have been nice to have a true universal rail instead of a sw rail that would have limited your light options.

Since our Admin allowed full time duty carry 1911, I have not looked back only selling my CQB (sniff sniff) because it was sitting in a box, likely never going to shoot it being fully committed to 1911 (duty and competition), eye for and eye...meaning needed money for another 1911 and wanted someone else to enjoy a cosmetically shooter grade but function and accuracy was still well beyond production level.

being my duty carry and wanting a fast handling weapon...I dehorned myself. I also modified two larger frame mounted decocker grips (AKA palm swells) since they fit my larger hands better and of course grip tape and spray grit increased retention but was not pretty. My gun was not pretty and named the Hillary Clinton Special by my brother officers but this gun RAN!!!!!!!!!

its in the hands of another officer and hopefully it will bring him many years of good use as it did me.

I have a Shorty45, that I am looking for a decent plain clothes holster to carry on desk duties. Looking for a lighter carry and my COACP might be going to a gunsmith for machining and turnaround might be months.

My two cents

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SW did attempt a railed PC model but I dont think it was produced or Grinder bought them all and is hiding them under his bed!

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This pistol appears to have the "palm-swell" grip I lobbied S&W to adapt from their 1076 FBI and 1026 models -- and apply to their other 3rd Gens -- especially the 10mms and .45s...

That is, it looks to be about half-way between the straight backstrap -- and the curved -- but without the decocker lever downstroke slot on the 1076s and 1026s...

Was mention made of this -- and I just overlooked it on previous posts?
 
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Was mention made of this -- and I just overlooked it on previous posts?

was this what you were referring too?
I also modified two larger frame mounted decocker grips (AKA palm swells) since they fit my larger hands better and of course grip tape and spray grit increased retention but was not pretty.
 
ok here is my pics after putting it off forever

3914tsw 4513tsw 45 cqb PC
 

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That is a VERY nice pic of your CQB WaterburyBob! Thanks for sharing it!

Regards 18DAI.
 
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