Swissman was shopping

[Swissman]

On my business-trip I came across the old and really nice city Burgdorf. I know that there's a gunshop which will
change the focus to more selfmade products for the shooters and hunters. So they decided to put all the reloading-gear and other things on sale.

Wyss Waffen

I found there 500 pieces of Sierra .429 220 grain bullets,

1000 pieces Sierra .357 158 grain bullets, looks like this

200 pieces RWS .309 73 grain FMJ bullets,

an all new Cardbox from Winchester with 50 unprimed .44 S&W Special cases..

and those two books. The standard price for this two books together is about 120 Swiss-Francs.

The shopowner asks for 236 Swiss-Francs (= ca. 250 US$) for all items and he gave me a really nice folding knife made by Herbertz, Germany for free.

This was a really fair price here in Switzerland.

It is clear that I was surprised and I like to set the link of his catalogue with the selfmade-products. It's written in german, but
I guess you see what he made for all the SIG's pistols, the K31, SIG STGW 57, the SIG STGW 90, the SIG 205 and for many other huntingrifles.

http://www.wysswaffen.ch/Dokumente/Eigenprodukte2009.pdf

Swissman

 

[Moonman]

Swissman, Nice photos as always.

 

[perrazi]

great find on the books. nice p-210's as always too.

 

[M29since14]

200 pieces RWS .309 73 grain FMJ bullets,

What may I ask are these "tiny" little things for... .30 Luger?

That haul would be quite a nice deal here in the U.S. My congratulations on your good fortune.

 

[TACC1]

swissman,
You have nearly outdone yourself. Nice selection! Great pictures
and I hope all your trips are as successful.
TACC1

 

[M29since14]

Quoted from the link:

Zündhütchen Rem 2/12
Für beste Präzision. 100 Stück


This amuses me. When I was a lad and we could generally hit about anything we could see, no one worried about primers! Now fifty-something and barely able to see past the end of the barrel, I find that I have a lot of company in worrying about primers. Even the Swiss!

 

[22dec]

The last item on page ten is very nice. Don't see many of them in the gun shops in my area.

Don

 

[moosedog]

Nice. Very nice.
I was thinking of moving.

 

[Andy Griffith]

Swissman,

Am I correct that soft pointed bullets are legal, but plain lead and hollow points are not? Are lead shotgun slugs legal?

Good haul and beautiful pieces! Always love reading your posts!

 

[RonJ]

Swissman, that's an astoundingly ugly city! I wouldn't live there unless someone asked me.

 

[Swissman]

Hard history for some of you

Well, from time to time it's necessary that I run against the wind. Because of a current event, I feel that it's necessary to bring some bright light to long ago episodes.

The blue book I bought, is a source of so much information about the developement of the SIG 210. It's clear that the Swiss-Army was the pushing force behind this project.
Here is an excerpt from the blue book with the testresults of four different guns, after 8 shots at 50 meters from the year 1942, because the Swiss-Army wants to replace the Parabellum in 7.65 mm Para.

Please look at the worst results, shot with the Colt 1911. (one inch =2.54 cm)
11 inches from a rest and complete desastrous 16.5 inches free-hand. After this test was the Colt 1911 out. (But they made later some research with the barrel-bushing-system of
the 1911, with no good results)
The "to replace" Parabellum kicks them all out. But the .32 caliber was no longer the wish of the Swiss-Army. They wanted more power.
So they looked further for another solution.

The soon verbally beaten up Swissman

 

[Swissman]

Swissman,

Am I correct that soft pointed bullets are legal, but plain lead and hollow points are not? Are lead shotgun slugs legal?

Good haul and beautiful pieces! Always love reading your posts!

Lead-bullets are allowed.
Soft-point and hollow-points for rifle-hunting are allowed.
Soft-point for handguns are allowed, if they not increase the diameter after impact to much.
Hollowpoints are designed to open up, so they are not allowed for handguns. There are some exceptions but not much.

Lead-shot....I am not sure, but I see a lot more steelshotguns in the shops.

Swissman

 

[M29since14]

Well, from time to time it's necessary that I run against the wind...

The soon verbally beaten up. Swissman

Our Swiss friend might as well have stopped with his first sentence, but since he did not, and given his previous comments elsewhere about how he apparently feels only real SWISSMEN are able to hold the P210 without biting, one might be tempted to observe that apparently these same Swissmen must not be terribly adept at holding the Colt 1911 .45 auto!

If it is any consolation to our Swissfriend, we know a few Americans who are that way, too.

 

[Texas Star]

I am amazed at the large group shot at 50 meters with the Colt. The gun was obviously an older one, not new production, but recoil must have fazed the shooter. ??

The P-38, with about a 6.5-inch group, did well. I think it's in part because the barrel doesn't swing down to unlock. Someone on the Beretta forum was wondering why his M-92FS shoots so well, and others think the system of operation, patterned on the P-38's, is partially responsible.

I see that they didn't test the German P-08, just a Swiss version. Surprised to see the Radom, but no Browning Hi-Power!

Because the P-210 uses its technology, I'm also surprised not to see the French M-35A. I suspect that later tests did include it. The Colt Super .38 was not included, so its hotter cartridge seemed to offer no advantages over the 9mm.

T-Star