Tall Tales & Steep Trails...I Want My Rope Back!

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Did Ya Ever Know Someone...............(Post #1 )
They Shoot Outhouses, Don't They?...(Post # 29)
I Want My Rope Back!......................(Post # 30)



I guess we've all known someone in our lives, who seemed to be larger that life. When I was a small boy, just a nubbin' you might say, I spent a lot of time with my Dad and his mother's oldest brother, Uncle Hugh Bert.

This was back in the 50's and uncle Hugh Bert was the oldest man I had ever seen. He was a widower and lived by himself at the 'Line Camp' in Brewster County. My father and I would travel down there several times a year, staying sometime a couple of weeks or longer. That place was a kingdom unto it's self, a paradise of adventure for a youngster.

Dad would always bring a few guns along, just for 'ol' time sake' as he called it. Back then I didn't savvy
the term or the meaning…When I recollect our first visits, I remember havin' to sit on a couple of Sears & Roebuck catalogs in the cane bottom chairs just to have my chin above the table so I could see the tin plate I was tryin' to eat off of.

As the years went by, we visited more often. Even as a kid I could see the old man's health was failing, but uncle Hugh Bert still got around, just not as fast. He always wore starched cotton shirts, buttoned at the collar, faded Levis and a sweat stained Stetson hat. There weren't any cattle on the place, but he kept a few good lookin' ranch horses to trade on and the slickest pair of black mules that you could ever lay eyes on. I mean to tell you, they were big and sure nuff broke. And he was, to this day, the only man I'd ever saw that would pull-a-crank on his old pick-up truck
by himself, just using that pair of mules.

In the evening times I'd set there and listen to Dad and my great uncle as they would recall ol' times and talk about the old days, when they were
'Tick Riders' and mounted Custom Inspectors down along the River during the prohibition days. Tales of high adventure, narrow escapes and close calls. Some times the talk would turn to guns and fancy feats of shooting. Or which old cartridge was just as good as, and at times better than some of the newer ones.

I remember uncle Hugh Bert carried a big old looking Colt revolver, I later learned it was a new service in .45 Long Colt and he had a .45 automatic pistol without a trigger guard. I thought for the longest that they (Colt) made them theta way. It's also where I pick-up on the difference in the .45 cartridges.

At other times, solemnly the two men would recall the name of a friend, other Los Rinches and lawmen that had pasted on. Once in a great while one of them would mention a difficulty (shooting) or some such scrap that a friend had survived or not.

After years of hearing of these darin' tales of brush popping. I think I was about fourteen years old, I got up the nerve to ask my Dad, on the porch of that old adobe, "Was you and uncle Hugh Bert ever in any of them shootouts?"

I will to my dying day always remember what my father said to me about that…"Son, men don't go 'round braggin' about killin's. If'n I was to shoot ol' Lucifer himself on the courthouse steps, you'd never hear me even mention it. You know son, its bad manners to be askin' others about such things. And for pete's sake don't ask your uncle Hugh Bert…He liable to just tell ya something I'd rather you not know just yet!"

I learned a lot about life from them two. Like how to load one, skip a chamber and load the other four in a single action revolver…How '86s and '94s are best, 'cause you can keep on loading 'em with one in the chamber and the hammer cocked back if'n your in a tight spot.
But most of all, I was taught how to be a man…And that a man's word is his bond.

I never did ask ol' unc' about them shootin's.

To be continued...By popular opinion.

They Shoot Outhouses...Don't They? (On Page 3)


Su Amigo,
Dave


Boys, If'n that ain't the truth...
Well it ought to be!
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I've had a few of them in my life - thank God. My Uncle Pope being the largest "larger than life". Pope Gossett retired from running the Fort Union ranch in NM. A huge ranch with boundaries spanning a mountain range. Pope and Alice raised my Mom (their niece) on the ranch when Mom's parents died. In his early days Pope rode the line on ranches in northern NM. Eventually he went into law enforcement. As a lawman Pope had responsibility for a large territory of New Mexico and held commissions that allowed him to trail bandits into CO. He was elected to Sherriff and served for many years. After that he took a position with the NM horse racing commission. Pope knew horses and cattle better than anyone I've ever known. He knew people even better. A big man, with a big smile and big laugh Pope knew how to get along with folks. Pope told me that if a law man knew how people think, he'd seldom ever have to use his gun.

I've been lucky to have people like Pope in my life. They have made me richer for the time we spent together.

Out
West
 
I had the opportunity to work with some old-time Southern lawmen in the early seventies. Cap'n Charles had been elected Sheriff of our county the year I was born, 1948. He and my Daddy were very close friends, and I guess you might say, political cronies. I went to work as a part-time jailer/deputy in the early seventies. He ran a tight county. The rowdy element, whether black or white, knew the limits of Cap'n Charles' patience. He was respected by black and white, which was always a necessity for keeping the peace in a rural Southern county in those days. He would probably be charged with civil rights violations today, but he was an equal opportunity head knocker, whether the recipient of the knocking was black or white. Very seldom did he have to use force, though, because his presence was enough to calm most miscreants. I never saw him wear a gun. I went with him to serve warrants and make arrests on many occasions, and I never saw him strike anyone or heard him raise his voice. I usually had a Chiefs Special in my hip pocket. Cap'n Charles served 36 uninterrupted years, and only faced opposition twice in the time I remember. He was killed in an automobile accident while on duty in 1984.

Cap'n Wanza was a contemporary of the Sheriff. He served in a variety of law jobs, prison warden, deputy, city police, once as a Federal officer of some sort at the nearby Air Force base. Again, he and my Daddy were close friends. I loved to hear him tell stories about his years as a state revenue officer, or a "revenoor." Georgia moonshiners had an awful lot of tricks, but Cap'n Wanza had a bag of his own tricks. He was a tall, erect, broad shouldered man, and had a permanent cigar in his mouth. He did carry a gun, and he owned probably 200 guns of various kinds. I was friends with his sons, and he had, from my memory, at least one Luger, a Thompson, an M2 Automatic Carbine, and bunches and bunches of "regular" guns, like 1911 Colts, Marlin hunting rifles, and S&W revolvers. They were always laying around in his house or in his vehicle, and every one of them was loaded. When my Daddy died, Cap'n Wanza, who must have been in his mid to late 60s, was a county deputy. When the funeral procession got to the little country church, Cap'n Wanza was in the road holding back oncoming traffic. As the car carrying my Mama and the rest of the family approached him, he swept that big Smokey Bear hat off his head and bowed at the waist. It was his last tribute to his good friend and his friend's family.
 
Sir, I certainly gain quite a bit from your posts. I am sure I'm not alone. Please continue to post whenever and whatever you see fit to do so.
 
Great beginning. Can't wait to hear the rest of the story. Thanks.

Charlie
 
My paternal grandfather is now 89 and has Alzheimer's. For the first 37 years of my life, he rarely talked about his childhood or his time in the Army Air Corps, and then in the Pacific, from about '40 to '46. I don't know if it was the Alzheimer's or just old age, but the last few years he has opened up and become quite a storyteller. Now, though, he can't remember all the names or places. That's OK, though, I have gleaned most of them from many retellings of the stories, and have written them down. He's led quite a life, and he's always happy to see me, even if he can't quite remember my name. I just spent a couple of weeks with him while my aunt and her husband (with whom he lives) took a vacation. I wouldn't trade a minute of it for anything.
 
"Son, men don't go 'round braggin' about killin's. If'n I was to shoot ol' Lucifer himself on the courthouse steps, you'd never hear me even mention it.
Well said.

There was a guy in one of my classes last semester who liked to tell these war stories to the younger kids straight out of high school. The stories were so full of BS I could smell it.

I only talk about the war in depth with a few men... and they all flew with me inside the same AC-130. Bragging about killing just doesn't fly with me.
 
I knew a fella once, now long gone. He'd been in the Marine Corps before WW2, during & after. He told me that "If B.S was dollar bills the story teller would be the richest man in the world." I think he was refering to some gun writers of the past.
 
Ain't nobody gonna mention our buddy Charlie Sherrill? :D :D

Back in the 1960s my brother was a young FBI agent assigned to the area around Hattiesburg, MS. He tells a story about a grizzled old police officer in that area who took all they young'ns under his wing and helped them learn the ropes. He was non-discriminatory, he even helped damn Yankees. It didn't matter if they were down there looking for civil rights workers buried in a dam, or just normal criminals.

I can't remember the guys name, I never met him. Charlie knew him the moment I mentioned it. It seems he helped Charlie out, too.

But these days the calm old deputy is Charlie himself. I haven't met Leezana Joe...yet. But maybe he'll travel north to a gunshow one of these days. Or Leyland Ray, where they keeping him?
 
Ain't nobody gonna mention our buddy Charlie Sherrill? :D :D
But these days the calm old deputy is Charlie himself. I haven't met Leezana Joe...yet. But maybe he'll travel north to a gunshow one of these days. Or Leyland Ray, where they keeping him?



Dick,

If'n I get back that way, for that fall show...Maybe we all can have a steak and a visit.
Your treat, I'd guess...~Smiley Thang goes Here~

Su Amigo,
Dave
 
Boy these stories bring back some memories of old cowhands when I was a kid and old Lawmen when I was a rookie.

I had the privilege of straddling some good horses along side some some men with spirits as big as the whole outdoors,and many hours on the road and streets with lawmen who carried big guns and knew how to use them.

They were some of the biggest, strongest, and softest hearted men I have ever known.

Thanks for the posts.
 
I thought my Army recuriter was just a big B.S.'er, until he showed me the pictures of him wrestling a live alligator!
 
"Reminds me of reading Skeeter, of course I believe yours is much more factual."

Oh really? Which ones of Skeeter's stories do you doubt?

Skeeter readily admitted that several of his charactors, like Dobe Grant, were composites of a number of the old timers that he had known.

Dave, great stories. But you need to get a more serious picture to post. It looks like you are about to break out in the giggles at any moment. :D
 
That picture of Dave reminds me so much of the Ranchers, Cowboys, and Lawmen I grew up around.

They were men with gruff faces, hard hands, fierce loyalties, their word was their bond.

They were profane among their peers, gentle with women, children, and animals.
They had gentle hands in caring for kids and animals, but if someone hurt a child or a critter, then those hands could become the "hammer of vengeance" in a heart beat.

They would take no guff from any man, but would give him the shirt of their backs if he was in trouble.

They still exist in Wyoming and I am sure everywhere. They are rare today, but in my line of work, I run across them once more often than most.

I've had some dealings with Dave and he fits the mold.
 
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Let's let Ol' Keith there just ugly 'em in to submission

Boys,
I pretty much stay in a jovial mood, I jest don't want everyone knowin' it.
Kinda hinders my reputation, ya know.

That look right there is an acquired demeanor…I think I was born with it.
It's my, I'm lookin' at you though the screen door greeting. (I'd like to have it copyrighted or patented which ever applies)

True story,
I go to pick-up this young man up on a pretty serious felony warrant, I'm givin' him the 'Look' through the screen door…I asked him, "Son, you got your shoes on?" He answered in the affirmative. "Well get your coat and hat, we've got to go to town to take care of your business." And we did.

All I can say is he didn't try to fight or flee that day.

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Oh, as far as Skelton's stories go…Who knows, sometimes I guess it could take three or four men to make one really good character.

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As far as my Dad and his crones went, they would gather on the porch or around the corrals and reminisce about the good ol' days. Tell funny stories on one another and just recall (to them anyway) their wild and wooly days…I didn't care if it was the whole truth or not.

Those men were giants in my eye.
I, even to this day hold their memories and deeds up for all the world to know.



Su Amigo,
Dave
 
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This is a great thread!! I love reading and hearing about the real Americans. The Americans that made this country great.
 

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