pmosley
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Never shopped there, certainly won't now. 
Like sending a check to Bloomberg.
Like sending a check to Bloomberg.As usual I agree with almost everything the eldest of Bears has to offer. I posted my comments in open carry thread of a coupla weeks back as to the good ole boys in Smash Burger with ar/ak platform rifles "racked" on seat of booth just waiting to fall in domino fashion when closest ole timer had to respond to an urgent call from his prostate. I don't think the OC crowd is doing it the way to best serve this cause. However, this is not the best decision Target could make to further our legal cause either. Target made this decision based on , word of mouth (i.e. Mothers and others, kinda catchey ain't it), 400,000 strong submitted petitions, et. al. I don't care for the Goobers with AR/AK platforms hanging all over them either. If I were the antis, I would hire a roving team of these guys to go all over, where legal, and be as big as an idiot as possible. Spys, undercover, if you will to embarass us gunowners. Infiltrate our ranks by posing as us! Could be already happening, who knows?
With that said the thread has drifted from Target, prompted by Mothers for resposible some such something petitioning Target to take this stand. This is a stand against all guns in Target, at least I percieve it that way!
I will respect their decision. Today I will enter front door Target, ask to speak to Manager there in the foyer and inform him I am legally carrying concealed and does he want my business or should I go elsewhere to buy my big screen TV? Then I will comply with his decision.
I assure you I will not ask him for "directions to the lemming suit department and which way to the cliff."
Boys, as Keith .44 Special says "I can see it from here." Had we voted with our feet years ago perhaps we would not be having to push 1 for English when we call somewhere these days."
Freedom is not free. Please, lets not just sit around and blame the OC guys for what Target and others have done; with surely more to follow. Look at the growing list of establishments currently.
We can say "well, Oh my, they only mean open carry of those black rifles." If you adopt this attitude I would like to see the weed control program in your vegatable garden.
My >4 cents factored for inflation.
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hobby-gunsmith
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Target is directed at the open carry of weapons in those states that is legal. I, for one, am against open carry and it is just inviting problems with the customers apprehension of a shooting. Yes, I am 100% in favor if the second amendment and support it to the full extent. However, the element of surprise is what concealed carry is all about when a confrontation is at hand. Open carry is inviting a problem from either another open carry person or a challenge from an individaul of choice of firearms. Let us use common sense when it comes to the second amemdment and be descret. My main concern is protecting my family or myself when it comes down to the wire. This is my two cents for what it is worth.
Nick
Target is directed at the open carry of weapons in those states that is legal. I, for one, am against open carry and it is just inviting problems with the customers apprehension of a shooting. Yes, I am 100% in favor if the second amendment and support it to the full extent. However, the element of surprise is what concealed carry is all about when a confrontation is at hand. Open carry is inviting a problem from either another open carry person or a challenge from an individaul of choice of firearms. Let us use common sense when it comes to the second amemdment and be descret. My main concern is protecting my family or myself when it comes down to the wire. This is my two cents for what it is worth.
Nick
I'd like someone to point to where in the 2nd it talks about being discreet?
Don't bring the 2nd into this discussion.
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Open carry of handguns has been banned since forever in Texas. Gun rights groups and most politicians were happy to just ignore the issue as they have since forever and leave it remain so.
For the first time the NRA, the TSRA, and the Texas Firearms Coalition are together fighting for open carry of handguns. Do you think this is happening because of a bunch of handwringing gun owners hiding their guns for fear of offending someone, criticizing gun rights activists and calling open carry of handguns unnecessary and stupid? Is that how it worked?
Has anyone noticed that gubernatorial candidate Democrat Wendy Davis has gone on record supporting open carry? Do ya think this is because of a bunch of gun owners criticizing activist groups and declaring open carry of handguns unnecessary and stupid?
Open carry has a good chance of passing in Texas so says the NRA. No thanks to disinterested critics of activist groups who think open carry of handguns is unnecessary and stupid.
Don't be so quick to assume that OC demonstrators are necessarily a bad thing to help such legislation pass. You'd be wrong. It makes the issue visible, stirs discussion, and puts a 2A issue in the face of gun rights groups and politicians who might otherwise just brush it aside as they have done since forever in Texas. Sure there are negatives with activism, always is. It's part of the process.
Edit: Oh forgot. Screw target. Won't spend a dime there.
For the first time the NRA, the TSRA, and the Texas Firearms Coalition are together fighting for open carry of handguns. Do you think this is happening because of a bunch of handwringing gun owners hiding their guns for fear of offending someone, criticizing gun rights activists and calling open carry of handguns unnecessary and stupid? Is that how it worked?
Has anyone noticed that gubernatorial candidate Democrat Wendy Davis has gone on record supporting open carry? Do ya think this is because of a bunch of gun owners criticizing activist groups and declaring open carry of handguns unnecessary and stupid?
Open carry has a good chance of passing in Texas so says the NRA. No thanks to disinterested critics of activist groups who think open carry of handguns is unnecessary and stupid.
Don't be so quick to assume that OC demonstrators are necessarily a bad thing to help such legislation pass. You'd be wrong. It makes the issue visible, stirs discussion, and puts a 2A issue in the face of gun rights groups and politicians who might otherwise just brush it aside as they have done since forever in Texas. Sure there are negatives with activism, always is. It's part of the process.
Edit: Oh forgot. Screw target. Won't spend a dime there.
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I dont go to Target much. But here in Texas until they post a 30.06 or 51% sign(s) I will go in Target if they have what I need at the best $$$. If the post LEGAL signage as required by the state then I will not go there. I can count on one hand the number of times in the last yr I went to Target anyway.
Moms Demand Action is nothing more than a paid mob of women (?) who don't have a life and need money. In the olden days they were prostitutes!! Today they attack your Constitution for money.
These happen to work for Bloomberg:
Moms Demand Action, a part of the Everytown for Gun Safety consortium, which is funded by former New York Mayor Michael Bloomberg, now has six notches in its belt after targeting major corporations with online petitions and protests.
Target simply caved in and very politely "asked" they you NOT bring your long guns into their stores. I have no problem with that as I certainly don't want the crowd in the photograph standing behind me in the checkout line.
These happen to work for Bloomberg:
Moms Demand Action, a part of the Everytown for Gun Safety consortium, which is funded by former New York Mayor Michael Bloomberg, now has six notches in its belt after targeting major corporations with online petitions and protests.
Target simply caved in and very politely "asked" they you NOT bring your long guns into their stores. I have no problem with that as I certainly don't want the crowd in the photograph standing behind me in the checkout line.
indiandave
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I live in an area where open carry is pretty common. If you see someone carrying a pistol, most people wouldn't give it a second thought. Carrying an AR-15 would get peoples attention, in a bad way. If I was in a restaurant and saw people coming in with rifles, I'd be a bit nervous. Most of us would be.
You understand that the guys carrying AR15s are fighting to carry pistols?
This most be the most difficult concept in the world to understand. Even when pointed out people don't understand it.
Moms Demand Action is nothing more than a paid mob of women (?) who don't have a life and need money. In the olden days they were prostitutes!! Today they attack your Constitution for money.
So totally absurd it doesn't even deserve a response.
Hodgin
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You understand that the guys carrying AR15s are fighting to carry pistols?
This most be the most difficult concept in the world to understand. Even when pointed out people don't understand it.
It's difficult because the open carry group have made it so. You see a bunch of people carrying ARs and AKs with signs advocating open carry and what do most people think. Alot of people are associating the open carry advocacy with carrying ARs, AKs, etc....
I understand what they're doing but believe (and evidence suggest) they are choosing the wrong way to go about it. They can advocate handgun open carry without patrolling the isles of Target carrying ARs and AKs, which is already legal in TX.
TexasArmed
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I have been to Target a few years ago, not lately. But Target knows what a legal sign is Texas or their legal counsel does.
I disarm only for a legal sign, most likely will not go in if they have a 30.06 or a 51% sign. I obey lawful signs and lawful posted speed limits, not recommended ones are suggestions.
I figure if they do not really want a concealed carry holder to
carry in their store they will definitely post the required legal sign. Till then it is not an issue with me.
OC has been illegal in TX for a hundred years. Pretty hard to blame current OC supporters for that. Especially seeing as how OC now is all but inevitable since it's supporters brought it out of the closet. When people were doing it the "right way," zero progress was made.
If you guys were worried about it you should have done it your way 5-10-50 years ago. You were not, and didn't, and now you're reduced to throwing rocks at those making a difference.
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When I was in Texas last month, the Target stores had signs banning illegal or unlicensed carry of firearms. Has that changed over the past month?
The "Unlicensed Carry" sign is the only one I've seen @ Target OR WalMart.
Here's a 'Clarifying' statement: BREAKING: Target Clarifies Gun Statement is Not a Ban or Prohibition on Gun Carry in Stores
Seems like they're not actually banning, or prohibiting anything. They're just trying to make the anti-gun idiots go away without pissing off guys-with-guns by pandering to both sides using weasel-word statements.
Here's a 'Clarifying' statement: BREAKING: Target Clarifies Gun Statement is Not a Ban or Prohibition on Gun Carry in Stores
Seems like they're not actually banning, or prohibiting anything. They're just trying to make the anti-gun idiots go away without pissing off guys-with-guns by pandering to both sides using weasel-word statements.
Hodgin
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First, we have open carry in TN and have had it for several years. I doubt we would have gotten it, or any type of carry for that matter, if supporters had run around public places like Target, Starbucks, and so on carrying ARs and AKs.
My comment about the open carry protesters in TX was in response to another post. My point was that by openly carrying AKs, ARs, and shotguns the protesters had confused the general public about what they were advocating, which was open carry of handguns. Although I don't live in TX, I suspect that not many people have seen others carrying long guns in places like Target despite the fact that it's legal.
Few businesses are going to welcome those types of firearms and by continuing this nonsense they are likely to affect everyone's right to carry, open or concealed. From what I've read I doubt they can cause a big enough stink to prevent handgun open carry from passing in Tx, but they're making it more difficult and have already caused some of the businesses they've carried on protests at to make policy statements. Most likely the policy statements will turn to signs if this stuff continues.
cyphertext
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Spoken by someone who has no clue how legislation in Texas works. It took over 20 years for CC to pass. There is no need for the negative media attention caused by carrying the long gun into a private business.
The OC crew has made a difference alright. Several national chains now have public, no guns policies and one mall has legally posted. Not quite a positive difference.
As far as OC of the long guns, would the same point not be made by wearing an empty holster? Wouldn't that be less confrontational? Would any national chains pass a no empty holster policy? Could mad moms claim that they were terrorized by an empty holster? Do you not see that there are better options to get the same goal accomplished without jeopardizing the carry rights for long guns?
Moms Demand Action is nothing more than a paid mob of women (?) who don't have a life and need money. In the olden days they were prostitutes!! Today they attack your Constitution for money.
So totally absurd it doesn't even deserve a response.
Quote: Moms Demand Action, a part of the Everytown for Gun Safety consortium, which is funded by former New York Mayor Michael Bloomberg, now has six notches in its belt after targeting major corporations with online petitions and protests. Unquote
I did not ask for a response. I only posted what was published. Bloomberg is behind this and the Moms are paid stooges......
TexasArmed
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I have not been to a Target Store in the past two years but I
wanted to post this link, Texas3006.com - Your 30.06 Information Resource
which I ran across that lists a data base of stores that have
signs pertaining to guns, and information about whether the
sign meets the requirements of Texas Law. Some locations
do not have the signs on every door, in English and Spanish and some do not have the required size. That's pretty good
information to have if someone is thinking about going to a city they have not been to shop.
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