Teen's note to self...Don't make Dad mad!

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Steve in Vermont said:
Thanks for posting the update. Being a parent is a real challenge today, more so than what my parents had to deal with in the 50's. The competition from sources outside the home is, for many young people (and their parents) overwhelming. But kids and parents, most anyways, are resilient and I believe this family will get through this. Now if the media will just cut them a little slack to work things out..........
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Hmmm... I read that link. The guy seems more solid than I'd have thought from the publicity. Looks like the daughter is handling it okay, but it woke her up to the consequences of her actions.

I wouldn't do it, but he seems to have made his point. I am very concerned with how the media is treating it. Any anti-gun issue they find, they exploit.
 
oldman45 said:
From her peers. She gets it in the same way inmates learns new tricks of the trade and gang members learn how to work their games.
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Excellent point. I see more than one response here where the good parent is shielding their child as best as they can. I applaud that. Just be aware that kids want what their friends have and you can't hide that forever. Sooner or later the're gonna see or hear from some other kids. Hopefully you can make them smarter than that.
My parents let me see the "other side". They always explained things to me.
 
John Frederick Bell said:
Man brought the threat of deadly force into a family situation. I have no respect for him, his methods, or his taste for public humiliation. The way I figure...he wants to see where his lousy kid came from, all he's got to do is look in the mirror.

At least one of them's got a reason for acting like a spoiled teenager. :rolleyes:
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Man do I agree with this reply.
Got to the point real quick.

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James
 
If he tossed it in a fire, smashed it with a bat, or tossed it in the lake... those would all be "deadly force".
He did NOT bring the threat of deadly force into a family situation.
If they were all standing there you MAY have a leg to stand on with that accusation.
He was there alone, not even a camera person.
Taking the family to the gun range to poke holes in targets is a lot closer to deadly force in a family situation.
He TOLD her the last time she pulled that nonsense that if she did it again, he was gonna shoot a hole thru the laptop.
He showed her that he is a man of his word.
If he hadn't, then it would have been a bluff that was not followed thru on.
One thing you do not want to do is not follow thru on your word.


Jim
 
Facebook sucks and should be destroyed.

One of my ex-GFs measured her self worth by how many friends she had on FB, and when the count dropped by one she'd spend hours pouring through her friends list trying to figure out who the offender was. Thankfully I left that train wreck long ago, along with my FB account. Don't miss it (either of them, come to think of it!) one bit.
 
A pint of gas and diesel and a match would have worked just as well in getting the point across. I can understand where he's coming from and that he felt measures needed to be taken. I too am on the fence about it all. I just dont have enough back story to call it either way
 
SnubNose said:
Facebook sucks and should be destroyed.

One of my ex-GFs measured her self worth by how many friends she had on FB, and when the count dropped by one she'd spend hours pouring through her friends list trying to figure out who the offender was. Thankfully I left that train wreck long ago, along with my FB account. Don't miss it (either of them, come to think of it!) one bit.
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I agree. One lady I know lost her job for staying on FB. She was not a teenage typist, she was a RN at a hospital and would ignore calls to be on facebook.

I am not on any of the social websites. Where I go, what I do and such is none of the business of those reading what is written. People tell their schedule for life on those sites. One attorney I know will tell where he & his wife will be eating each night, when they return and their weekend plans. None of which is anyone's business and those reading likely do not care.
 
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Facebook is not the problem.
People are the problem.
People crash cars and kill others all the time.
Cars should be destroyed.
People fall and die in the shower.
Showers should be outlawed.

Stop blaming the objects... start blaming the users.


Jim
 
Evil One said:
Facebook is not the problem.
People are the problem.
People crash cars and kill others all the time.
Cars should be destroyed.
People fall and die in the shower.
Showers should be outlawed.

Stop blaming the objects... start blaming the users.


Jim
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OK, I will say it is the people. Yet it is the fuel that runs the people. Divorce courts are seeing a lot of internet romances and FB has been named defendant in many cases. I do not blame FB for some woman ruuning off with a lover but I blame it for a lot of other things. There are robbers that get info from FB when people are not home. There have been some suicides over what was posted on FB.
 
Yet again... it comes down to the people.
A FB cheater would have cheated at the office, a neighbor, at a bar...
And people are idiots for posting their every move.
Not much different than telling everyone where you work your plans for the next week.

You lose your job because you were on FB, you are a negligent person anyway.

It is the entitlement mentality, "not my fault".
Man up, take responsibility.
Nobody to blame for their lot in life but themselves.


Jim
 
Good old facebook.....As Lamont Cranston used to say" who knows what evil lurks in the mind of man"...We I guess now everybody knows...Thank you facebook you have really helped the species..
 
WOW!
Such mixed emotions here. I assume most of us here have kids, and some have kids that have kids. Everyone has different rules and ways of punishment. For most people in this world including our kids "lessons not learned in blood are soon forgotten" (so to speak). Meaning something has to be lost for you to cherish what you have, or not to make the same mistake.

My kids are not perfect, but every time they go around the neighborhood hanging out with their little buddies. They come home with attitude, and that flies for about 3 seconds around here. I do not tolerate our kids showing unneeded disrespect to any adult. Much less someone who is putting a roof over their heads, cloths on their backs, and food in their mouths.

We over look a lot of things our kids do because they're our kids. I ask you can I come live with you rent free, and you feed and cloth me. Meanwhile I complain and bad mouth you behind your back? I think not!
 
As a young boy my father instilled in me the consiquences of disobedience. He told my brother and I to get our room clean, He said throw away all the junk and trash and organise the stuff we wanted to keep because he was tired of stepping on trash on the floor. He ended the sentance with if you don't clean it up I will. Five minutes later we had kicked thing under the bed and in the closet then proceeded to do as we pleased. HE gave us a 30 minute time limit and came back. He picked up the bed and found the trash, opened the drawers in the dresser, and opened the door to the closet. My father wasn't one to not one to not mean what he said. He returned with a trash can and started with the drawers. Nothing was safe but clothes and shoes. He dumped comic books, race tracks, stuffed animals, mainly junk... and took them outside to the burning barrel and built a fire. We could see it from the bedroom all thoughs broken plastic tracks and stuffed animals made a huge fire. My brother and I started to hide the important stuff we wanted to keep in the drawers he had been through. He made several more trips in and out. By the end of the cleaning the room was clean. I have a idea now he knew we hid the stuff we wanted, but the next time he said clean up your room we did just that. What can I say other than " thank you Dad ". He always provided for us and we listened to his wisdom. None of us were ever in trouble with the law, we all provide for our families, and we are a tight family. When we tried to push the stupid button he would always warn us, every time he was right. I respect my Dad in every thing he says not just because he's my dad but because he earned that respect. With that being said I think this guy missed his oppertunity to demand the respect of his daughter. Shooting the lap top I think was stupid just because he probably bought it in the first place. I also think the daughter has probably pushed her limits too far in the past and has had to pay little to no consequences for her actions. Dad better get control quick and in a hurry before he loses her to the cruel world. He also may have another problem that being the biological mother. If she is undermining his attempts at discpline for his daughter then he is fighting an up hill battle. My father was the rock of the family all things that involved the family were his decision and his decisions were absolute. It was a good lesson to learn but a hard one to teach. Hope this guy makes the right choices but he is starting a little late. Doeboy
 
So... he shouldnt have destroyed it because he bought it?
Who bought all of the things your father burned.
Looks like a VERY similar scenario here.


Jim
 
oldman45 said:
2. It would have been easier to take her internet account away.
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Right, but it might not have been possible. He may need the internet at home for his work. Lots of parents do. But I agree with you, it would have been the best solution, if it could have been employed.

I disagree with the idea that there was any "threat of deadly force," from what I know of the incident. Dad probably shouldn't have used a gun to destroy the computer. Bad judgment, maybe. Deadly threat... :rolleyes:

He probably should have just taken the computer away and locked it up until her behavior improved. I've had to do it a couple times. If that makes me a bad Dad... guilty as charged! ;)
 
My biggest blessing was haveing the parents I had. I dont think they were hard on me either. I do recall when I was 12 we moved to a house that still didnt have indoor plumbing. My job was to carry the water in from a old hand pump and well. I fell down on the job and dad handed me the water bucket and waited at the door. I would pump the bucket full and he would throw it on the ground and send me for more.
Once my mother found a couple of cigarettes another kid gave me in a shirt pocket. She got down on her knees and prayed for my miserable soul while I sat on the couch. Stuff like that worked for me!
Dad always was my hero even if he temporarly made me mad some times. Dad was a big raw boned 6 ft 5"s and I was carefull to never try him out or see how far I could push it.
Once when I was about 12 or 13 I got in a fight with 2 or 3 other boys in town and of all people, my mother came out of a store and waded in to them. It embaressed me to where I would have rather took a beating!
My wife says I was raised by ozzie and harriet. Not quit, but close.
My folks before I knew em.

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What an idiot. Brings to mind the Simpsons episode when Homer bought a gun.
 
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