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[fbcmrjrtykr]

Had my first issue tonight with my SD40VE. Tried a JHP ammo I'd never tried before....Fiocchi Shooting Dynamics Handgun Ammunition, not the Extrema line. $23.99 per 50 so I figured it was worth a try. Had 4 FTF's in the first 4 rounds, i.e. I chambered a round, fired it, had an failure to feed, cleared it, repeated the process. Four times it did that. The last 6 rounds fired and fed fine. I then put the 4 that failed to feed back in the mag and they fired fine. So, is it the ammo or was I limp wristing? I've had no FTF's with WWB FMJ, or Remmington JHP's.

I will add that the slide didn't seem to be smooth tonight, particularly going forward. I found that the recoil spring wasn't completely seated when I broke it down. Could that have contributed to my issue?

I've heard people say these guns eat anything (I've even said so myself) and, up till now, mine has. Just wondering about this Fiocchi stuff.

What do y'all think?

 

[Pinger5.56]

If you check the manual it shows a pic in it about the recoil spring proper alignment, if this is off it can cause issues. I just got back my SD9VE from S&W they had it for a month, when I first got it cleaned it an shot it I had several issues with it, upon return it has eaten everything that I put in its mags.
I wonder have you gotten the feed ramp polished yet, they at S&W replaced the extractor and barrel, then polished the feed ramp assembly. After all of this it has performed well. If your feed ramp has not been polish that could be the issue with the different ammo you are using. I hope this helps

 

[gm272gs]

My answer to that is that your pistol doesn't like that ammo.
It could be the shape of the bullet, the overall length of the cartridge, the charge, or a mixture of the three. Don't use it anymore, especially when you know there is other ammunition out there that works well in it.

In my experience, there is no such thing as "limp-wristing", either. I have tried to cause a malfunction by not holding an auto-loader tightly, and it just doesn't happen. Now if you have your thumb up there - rubbing on the slide - that will slow down the cycle and could potentially cause feed failures. I have watched Jerry Miculek hold an M&P pistol upside down (one handed) and hit a gong at 100 yards, so it is more than likely NOT how you're holding it.

 

[Rpg]

Get rid of the remaining ammo.

Not all ammo works in all pistols.

Stick to what works !

F it doesn't work it is useless.

Just my opinion, of course.

 

[GKC]

In my experience, there is no such thing as "limp-wristing", either.

Hmmm...there seem to be a lot of people who think there is.

It may not happen for you, perhaps because you have sufficient grip strength in whatever position you hold the gun, I don't know...but there have been many instances where someone has had malfunctions with a pistol and another shooter didn't, and the only change made was the shooter.

In this case, though, I'd say it was obviously the ammo. For some reason, guns can be individuals when it comes to ammo...while most ammo will run most SDVEs without a problem, some individual pistols are just picky. Maybe some fluff and buff is in order, but I'd also stick with ammo that works consistently.

 

[playa0069u]

The only limp wristing issue ive ever had myself that I can speak of was the pistol biting extracted cases on they're way out of the gun and the slide jamming with the case stuck in it. But this was on a cheap gun (cobra380). Anytime I didn't hold the gun like a vice it would do this.

 

[OKFC05]

Anyone who has developed proper grip technique virtually cannot induce a "limp wrist malfunction" even trying. So they think it never happens.
But if you don't think poor grip technique can't cause function failures, you haven't instructed many beginning shooters.
I had one that held an M&P .22 so WRONG it would flip up nearly 90 degrees and nearly get out of her hands. After considerable work, she finally got the idea to HANG ON to the gun, and it magically started feeding the next round..

As to the Fiocchi ammo, most I've shot has been pretty warm, but watch out for the ultra-light bullets in an M&P .40.
And watch where you put your fingers. I've observed finger drag on the slide by some shooters who swore they NEVER did it.

 

[fbcmrjrtykr]

I'll put the rest of that box through it this weekend an see what happens. Thanks all.


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[GranCazador]

I had similar issues with that same ammo. it was so underpowered it would hardly cycle. several misfires. it was so bad that I broke all of the remaining rounds down and kept the brass.

 

[hmbiohazard]

that brand has been know to have issues. in many calibers. i stay away from it. WWB, FED, REM. and reloads. although i have not had an issue with any kind of ammo i prefer one of the 4 as i know they work

 

[Beergut]

Fiocchi FMJ is my preferred practice ammo for my Bodyguard 380. I have never had a FTF or any issues with this brand.

 

[Arik]

It could just be as simple as your gun not liking that specific ammo

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[leejack]

I agree with most of the others. Not all guns like all ammo so I would try something else. Also, as far as the recoil spring goes, no telling what problems it could cause if not properly seated. I always "gently and carefully" keep my thumb on it going in or out.

 

[hbaird]

I learned about "Limp Wristing" with the last round in the Magazine in my first Sigma. A little thinking about how a full Magazine always worked and the last only most of the time told the tale. A little improvement on my part in holding it better and some wear in for the gun and all was good. The mid 90ties Sigma were built tight.

 

[fbcmrjrtykr]

Well the final results are in. I fired the remaining Fiocchi ammo today. 3-4 FTF's in 36 rounds. I found I could gently tap the back of the slide and the round would fully chamber. I finished up with some WWB and had zero issues. If there were issues with my grip, it may be that the less expensive ammo exposed them. While I will continue to practice, I think I'll skip the Fiocchi in the future. I've got some Rem golden saber on the way. We will see how she likes that.


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