the 15-22 for L/E Firearms Instructors

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This is for my fellow law enforcement firearms instructors (the rest of you please feel free read on if you are so inclined).

Three years ago, when my department adopted the M&P 15 to replace an aging inventory of Marlin Camp Carbines, I was quite happy. Not only had we adopted a superior firearm for use as a patrol rifle, but we had also exchanged the 9mm for the 5.56X45mm thereby improving the terminal effectiveness of our issued long-arms.

As a former Marine, and a veteran of our department's tactical team (which utilizes Colt 9mm carbines), The AR15 platform was second nature to me. Unfortunately, the diminishing number of military veterans coming into the law enforcement field results in a situation where I was in the minority regarding my familiarity with our new rifles. Even though I provided all members of the department with training, I was still not happy with the overall proficiency I was noting in my officers. Not that qualification was particularly difficult (owing largely to our less than challenging state qualification course), but general handling and overall familiarity with the platform was lacking.

The obvious solution to this problem is increased training with the rifles. Enter last year's ammunition shortage; increased ammunition prices; and overtime concerns; and you might imagine the less than enthusiastic response that accompanied my pitch for more range time for the entire department.

Then last year S&W introduced the 15-22. My first thought was "This solves 2/3 of my training budget issue." My remaining question was whether the 15-22 would suffice as an adequate stand-in for the full power rifle. At the beginning of this year, I acquired a 15-22. My initial impression was that it simulated the operating qualities, trigger, and sighting characteristics of the M&P 15 very well. The only control missing is the forward assist and that omission is of little consequence. In contrast, when I evaluated the Colt .22 RF model, I felt the solely cosmetic bolt release and the difference in the operation of the safety lever were sufficient to adversely affect the training value of that rifle.

My feelings for the 15-22 were diminished somewhat when I took it to the range for the first time. With several different brands of ammunition I experienced failures to feed with annoying regularity. Thus, I trip back to Smith&Wesson was arranged. In typical fashion, the 15-22 returned to me within a week. The accompanying document indicated an update to "Current Specifications."

Since that time, the 15-22 has been nearly flawless with every ammunition I have tried, including the much maligned Remington Golden Bullet. In fact, over the course of the several hundred rounds that I've fired through the rifle since it's return, the only problem I have encountered is a very occasional instance where the bolt does not cycle far enough to reset the hammer/trigger. This I blame on the bargain-basement ammunition I've been using, not the rifle itself.

Two days ago, during a mandatory department range session, I finally devoted a portion of the course to the 15-22 (This was strictly training, not for qualification purposes). During the course of the training session, about one thousand rounds of Winchester Wildcat ammunition cycled through the 15-22. In all, there were perhaps 6 or seven instances where the bolt did not reset the fire control. This was not, altogether, bad as it afforded officers an opportunity to practice weapons transition and malfunction clearing drills.

In summation, I would say (subjectively) that the 15-22 provides about 75% of the training value to officers of the full-power AR 15. The only thing missing is the recoil of the 5.56 (and the cost). Accuracy, even at 50 yards, was more than adequate to simulate the results of the bigger round. Beyond this, there was another interesting issue surrounding the use of the 15-22. Officers loved firing it because it is so damn much fun. Enthusiasm, and desire to shoot, are intangible qualities that cannot be instilled, but pay tremendous benefits when they are present in training.

In closing I'll say: the 15-22 does not and will not replace practice/training with the full-power AR 15. It does, however, appear to supplement that training marvelously; and with the funds saved in ammunition costs, administrators may grumble less about overtime concerns. In short, if you are considering a 15-22 (as I was last year). Get one. I doubt that you will regret it.

HRF
 
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While not for exactly that purpose, I picked up the 15-22 so I could let my young son familiarize himself with the AR layout, while still being able to shoulder the much lighter weapon.

It has worked out well for exactly that purpose, and he handles it better than I thought he would. I fully anticipate that once he can safely shoulder the lighter of my two full sized ARs, that he will make a smooth transition over to the 5.56 with ease.

Good article.
 
Great info! My Father-in-law is the Chief of a small rural PD. A very small budget severely limits their range time, training and qualification abilities. Perhaps this can be part of a solution to meet their training and budgeting needs.

Thanks for this post
 
I'd say that's about as spot on as it gets!

A great read and thanks for sharing with us!

There are actually departments out there that use a high end airsoft for training (Systema Personal Training Weapon) it's over
a thousand dollars and as cool as it is, it's an airsoft rifle... The departments that chose to go that direction can now go with a
real fire arm and with an LE discount probably for less than $400. The 15-22 makes a lot of sense, in a lot of different ways.
 
Thanks for the great post!!
I had a similar idea for my department. The differance is that I proposed the .22 conversion kit. I did a great deal of research and actually showed them my Spikes Tactical kit. I showed a cost analysis on ammo. I liked the idea based on the weapon used being the exact duty weapon (controls, weight, sights, function).

The department was very receptive to the idea. The idea was later trashed :mad:......... Oh well, such is Law Enforcement.

Maybe it will be entertained next year.

TGD
 
Thanks for the comments. We use Airsoft for force-on force scenario training, and I like it for that purpose. The Airsoft AR 15's (Actually M-4's) that we have simulate the look and feel of the real rifles, but lack some of the operating characteristics. The triggers also have a completely different feel. I wanted something a little closer to the real thing for live-fire training.

I considered a .22 conversion for our M&P 15's before the 15-22 was introduced. Once it hit the market, I opted for it rather than the conversion kit for two reasons. The first was my concern over running .22 RF ammo through the M&P 15's barrel and potentially leaving residue and lead deposits in the gas system. Over time, I worry that the lead/residue build-up will start to cause functioning problems with 5.56 ammo when the conversion is not in use. Since the rifles we use for training come out of a cruiser, and then go right back in after we are finished (after a good cleaning, of course), I did not want to run the risk of having an officer's rifle malfunction, at the worst possible moment, due to contamination of the gas system. This may seem a bit paranoid, but I've been doing this job for a long time, and I'm well acquainted with Mr. Murphy. I know that some manufacturer's of .22 conversion kits recommend running full-power 5.56 ammo through the rifle periodically to "blow out" the gas system. Nevertheless, as an AR15 armorer, I know it takes very little (as in thousandths of an inch) constriction of the gas tube to introduce malfunctions in a formerly reliable rifle. I just did not want to run that risk.

The other reason for opting for the 15-22 was the price of the rifle. The conversion kits go for about $200. For just over twice that amount, I had a dedicated rifle chambered for .22 RF. Not having to pull a rifle out of service; install the conversion kit; and clean the hell out of it when I'm finished to avoid the problems mentioned above, swayed my decision to the 15-22. I understand the value of using the actual rifle in training that you will be running in the field, and if you opt for a conversion kit, I have no heartburn with that. These are just the reasons I made the choice I did.

HRF
 
I purchased my 15-22 for training purposes. I didn't need another fun gun....I have enough of those already. ;) I saw it as a simple solution for helping control the cost of rising ammo prices. And to that end, it has done well. I restrict myself to 50 yards or less when using it and does well enough for that. Still waiting for that match grade barrel accuracy to kick in. :D
 
I haven't scoped the 15-22, but its accuracy with bulk ammunition seems acceptable for my purposes. From 50 yards, with metallic sights, my officers had no trouble keeping rounds on an OPOTC target.

HRF
 
It's not a bolt action target rifle but it's accurate enough.

Let's face it.. the AR15 isn't the end all on accuracy either, there are much better rifles if hole through hole is the goal. The AR is the swiss army knife of rifles, good enough to do a few different roles.
 
John Feamster has a well documented AR15 0.231" group at 200 yards as far back as 1996.

Yeah it was a match rifle, but it wasn't a bolt action target rifle, and it was accurate enough. ;) Nothing magic about bolt actions.

-- Chuck
 
As for training with the M&P15-22 vs a 5.56mm service rifle there are few differences. And massive cost savings. All the principles are there with either rifle. Same trigger, same controls, same sights, same same.

1500 rounds of .22LR at less than 4¢/round cost me about $50. 1500 rounds of M193 Ball runs nearly $700 these days, and even Wolf (which the snobs refuse to shoot ;) ) runs about $500 for that amount down range.

$435 for the rifle + $50 in ammo is $485. The rifle paid for itself many rounds ago, even if I'd ever shoot Wolf thru my M4. :)

-- Chuck
 
John Feamster has a well documented AR15 0.231" group at 200 yards as far back as 1996.

Yeah it was a match rifle, but it wasn't a bolt action target rifle, and it was accurate enough. ;) Nothing magic about bolt actions.

-- Chuck

Sure there is magic about BA rifles.. There are match BA's that will do that at 1000 yards, 2000 yards...

My point is that there are certain types of fire arms for certain tasks. The AR is a jack of all trades.
 
I agree. That said, I'm with Arizona98 on this.... my 15-22 isn't impressive for a .22lr semi-auto.

I don't disagree.... It's not as accurate as my Marlin Mod 70 or my Nylon 66 was (both of which were sold when I bought the 15-22) but it's still fun to try and be as accurate as I can with it. And I have no doubt that within a years time, we will have a selection of aftermarket barrels, some that may even be up to the "Match Grade" descriptor.
 
I use 15-22 for LE training as well. I'm in CA and our Chief won't sign letterhead for assault weapons. Rimfire is exempt, so I picked up the 15-22. Absolutely great training aid, especially for Officers that just want to practice a little bit more. It's also nice to test out accesories.

Rifle price is good and ammo price can't be beat. I can't wait to get my Tactical Solutions Glock .22 upper to really get some cheap practice in!
 
I know a bit about the accuracy of the 15-22 and its very good with just mid range ammo all done at 50 yards.
I used Aguila Match Rifle which is $33 a brick of 500 for this target with a bit of Wolf ME thrown in.

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And here is a pic of one of my targets the first day i bought my bolt action CZ 452 Ultra Lux, Ammo was either Aguila Match Rifle or Federal AutoMatch as i didn't write it down or remember. But neither are expensive ammo.

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The key to accuracy in the 15-22 is subsonic ammo or Match ammo wich is subsonic ammo also. Mine with shoot 2"-3" patterns at 50 yards.

Ive gotten much better with my CZ so my groups look alot better now, But the 15-22 is more than adequate to be accurate with the right ammo.
 
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