The anti-shooter/anti-smoker conspiracy

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I heard several years ago that the left could not get our guns so they'd get our ammo. I passed that off as paranoia or some mental disorder. O.K. 9mm plinking ball was $9.00/c and is now $22.00/c. The bad thing is that my dealer can hardly get it at that.
But, I digress.
Now arises the price ploy from the anti-smokers. They kicked us out of public places and heaped on moral attacks. Heck, they even started tales about the revered Marlboro Man. Now the ultimate attack, smokes for $5.20 a pack. Damn, a fellow has to quit. How else am I gonna get my $12.00 CCI std. vel. .22s when MidWay gets 'em back in stock?

I see the conspiracy. Gun owner angels = conservatives, right? Tobacco State angels = conservatives, right? Conservatives are in hiding, so can't you see?

There's this area 69 thing out there in Wyoming or something like that....

One of you guys got a smoke?
 
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I heard several years ago that the left could not get our guns so they'd get our ammo. I passed that off as paranoia or some mental disorder. O.K. 9mm plinking ball was $9.00/c and is now $22.00/c. The bad thing is that my dealer can hardly get it at that.
But, I digress.
Now arises the price ploy from the anti-smokers. They kicked us out of public places and heaped on moral attacks. Heck, they even started tales about the revered Marlboro Man. Now the ultimate attack, smokes for $5.20 a pack. Damn, a fellow has to quit. How else am I gonna get my $12.00 CCI std. vel. .22s when MidWay gets 'em back in stock?

I see the conspiracy. Gun owner angels = conservatives, right? Tobacco State angels = conservatives, right? Conservatives are in hiding, so can't you see?

There's this area 69 thing out there in Wyoming or something like that....

One of you guys got a smoke?
 
Just heard today, that a bill being pushed through my state, will add another $1.03 tax per pack. The feds are adding another $2.00 federal tax per pack very soon. That puts a pack of smokes at $8.20
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At that rate, had I not quit, it would be costing me $5986.00 per year. About what a case of Winchester primers will soon cost!

WG840
 
Bad comparison.
While almost all forms of the shooting sports have some merit, smoking has no merit.
It's just a personal choice of whether one wishes to be addicted to a proven harmful substance that will empty wallets and increase health care costs.
 
I smoke too, and I heard about this a couple of weeks ago. I would like to quit at some point. My dad died last year of lung cancer, but I love smoking! I know the risks, but I know I should quit.

I know how you feel. We are made to seem as if we are second class citizens. Our rights are being infringed upon. It is hard to even find a place outside to smoke anymore. How much harm is that to anyone but me?

I understand the health costs. In fact, I heard on the radio today that smokers should actually pay $8.50 a pack to cover the true cost of smoking, if you want to include the cost of health care to deal with the ill effects of smoking.

My question is, is when will they start taxing the obese???!!! This is a group of people who are growing faster than any smoking, drinking group of people out there, and you can't tell me that their health costs are not skyrocketing! It is probably too PC to tax anything that will harm this group!
 
I meant it all in jest. Sorta toungue in cheek like skoal. I doubt you'll find many dying in the wool smokers who'll not say it is a filthy, expensive habit. It is a ssad that the conservatives who stood for gunners and smokers have been outmoved by the left leaning Goreites. They could not legislate big tobacco out but the taxes are doing that. I spoke in jest but how much truth is in what's been spoken about by a half dozen Billy-Bobs I've heard say that the anti-gunners are behind the ammo shortage.

Guns are in mysterious absence in the appearance of the gun racks in dealer's shelves around here. Ruger mk III's are virtually not to be found and the ammo for them is scarce. A fellow in the throes of nicotine detox has to wonder about some of these juxtapositions.
 
My question is, is when will they start taxing the obese???!!! This is a group of people who are growing faster than any smoking, drinking group of people out there, and you can't tell me that their health costs are not skyrocketing! It is probably too PC to tax anything that will harm this group!
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Can't do that. Too many of us on this forum would have to curtail our hobby.
 
Hey, old Barack is a smoker.
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I watched them film a Marlboro Man commercial once, I was camping with a bunch of Sportsmobile owners on the ranch where they have their corral. The corral is on a fairly steep slope so it looks right against the mountains in the background.

They had, IIRC, an ambulance ready in case anybody got hurt. They had a guy in a golf cart who drove around sprinkling stuff on the ground before each take so that the horses would stir up "dust" just right.

It was a real pretty spot, however, on the river near Moab.

We had some fun 4-wheeling with our Ford E-350s, too.

The rancher rents it out for lots of movie stuff.

We had our catered meals on a set for the movie where Bill Murray inherits the elephant from his dad. The set was for where they save the adobe church from falling down. Just an interesting place.
 
It's just a personal choice of whether one wishes to be addicted to a proven harmful substance that will empty wallets and increase health care costs.
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Kinda like those that drink alcohol all the time.
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And NO ONE is paying for the healthcare cost of this smoker. I have paid for my own insurance since I was 16, so when my health takes a crap, I've paid for it several times over.

But just to be clear, I do agree there are rude smokers out there (standing right by front doors so people have to walk through it, lighting up in cars with no consideration of the non-smokers riding with them, etc.), and they are the ones I'd like to smack.
 
Originally posted by ndtish:
I smoke too, and I heard about this a couple of weeks ago. I would like to quit at some point. My dad died last year of lung cancer, but I love smoking! I know the risks, but I know I should quit.

I know how you feel. We are made to seem as if we are second class citizens. Our rights are being infringed upon. It is hard to even find a place outside to smoke anymore. How much harm is that to anyone but me?

I understand the health costs. In fact, I heard on the radio today that smokers should actually pay $8.50 a pack to cover the true cost of smoking, if you want to include the cost of health care to deal with the ill effects of smoking.

My question is, is when will they start taxing the obese???!!! This is a group of people who are growing faster than any smoking, drinking group of people out there, and you can't tell me that their health costs are not skyrocketing! It is probably too PC to tax anything that will harm this group!
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The government should not be taxing the obese or smokers. At the same time, the government should not be spending one thin dime on anyones healthcare. If someone wants to spend there life savings fighting diabetes or lung cancer then fine. The more efficient members of society will be more than glad to take that money in exchange for medical care, while others of us get their house, car, guns, etc. on the cheap.
 
My question is, is when will they start taxing the obese???!!! This is a group of people who are growing faster than any smoking, drinking group of people out there, and you can't tell me that their health costs are not skyrocketing! It is probably too PC to tax anything that will harm this group!
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Yep, fat people suck too.

They're forever going to eat when it's time to get something done at work, then come back stinking up the office with their belching and farting, and you just know they throw their garbage on the ground when no one's looking. They're awful tough on the chairs too.

Emory
 
The RKBA is a RIGHT. Smoking on the other hand is a behavior that is going out of fashion for a variety of reasons, such as greater understanding of the health problems it causes-cf the anti-smoking commcercials Yul Brynner mad to be realsed after his death from lung cancer. Never smoked myself, several family members have quit and are glad for it. I do recall what my instructor in Econ 101 said, I forget his exact words, but he noted the illogic and hypocrisy in taxing something to discourage its use while pllaning on the revenue the tax is supposed to bring in.
 
Originally posted by Old Corp:
Bad comparison.
While almost all forms of the shooting sports have some merit, smoking has no merit.
It's just a personal choice of whether one wishes to be addicted to a proven harmful substance that will empty wallets and increase health care costs.
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How about sugar rich soft drinks, coffee, wine, wiskey, etc....?
 
How about people and their stinking perfume. I'd rather be in a room full of smokers.
 
How about people and their stinking perfume. I'd rather be in a room full of smokers.
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Uh huh, I was in Starbucks today and some young hot chicks came in, I could smell their perfume as crept up behind them, disgusting!

Emory
 
I work with one of the perfume-heavy women. If I stay around her for more than a few minutes, my sinuses go to heck and I end up with a headache from you-know-where.
 
There are many things offensive, some affect others in different ways. To me having a smoker around is not much different than having someone starting a trash-fire near me. And the so-called 'considerate smoker' is as rare as the dodo bird.
BTW - when you stop at any major lighted intersection on any highway in the country, look down on the pavement next to the travel lane. Tell me what you see. Tell me what you see by the thousands.
 
Don't think for a minute they will be satisfied with smokers.

Fattys, boozers, couch potatos, motorcycleists, other 'high risk' sports participents. Your turn is comeing. It won't be forbidden, but if you waste 'THE PEOPLES' healthcare money (that you diddn't ask for) with your reckless lifestyle, you must pay.

And really, who cares? Smokeing is a disgusting, dirty habit. Actualy it feels kinda good to kick the nasty smokers around a little.

Sound familiar? i.e. jews, homos, gypsys, retards, etc. Ya gotta start somewhere, eh?
 
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