The Beretta M9

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Truly one of the most divisive military handguns of all time. Some call it an obsolete, unreliable boat anchor with a grip only fit for a giant, with a poorly positioned safety decocker and dubious stopping power.

Me?

I think it's a sweet shooter. Light recoil, decent sights, and when well maintained (unlike many military issued examples) and when using quality magazines (again, the military failed here) it's a dependable weapon.

What are your thoughts on the Beretta M9?
 
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It's my absolute favorite 9MM handgun. I currently have an M9A3 and a 92FS. I am most accurate with the long DA pull for some reason, I can't do the averted grip either.

I wear a 7 1/2 to 8 surgical glove. So the standard M9 and 92 grip fits me perfect.

Here's my current stable of 9's.

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Folks like Mas Ayoob, Earnest Langdon and Bill Wilson all like the Beretta 92.
But it is IMO too big...... that's why I favor the Compact [15+1] or the Centurion [17+1] both with the shorter 4.25" slide vs the M-9s 4.9".

Also, todays 92 is not the as the 1985 M-9. Todays guns have 3rd gen locking blocks, thin G-10 grips, radiused backstraps, enhanced Mec-gar and factory mags [making the Compact 15+1 or 17/18+1 with Farrar or X-grip sleaves.] replaceable front and rear sights, and a G-Model which is de-cocker only [kits to convert any model to a G is available from Beretta for about $50]!

If you can find one there is even a single stack Compact.
 
I love the M9/92FS and purchased an M92FS for my accumulation. I never really cared for the slide mounted decocker because I was primarily a 1911 guy. I was in the last group to transition over to the issued M96D as a duty weapon and the DAO eliminated the decocker safety issue for me. The long but very smooth DAO worked great for me, but I do have fairly large hands with long fingers. I don't recall ever having a malfunction with my M96D, but admit there were some serious issues with the other M96D's that were issued to other Troopers.
 
I love the M9/92FS and purchased an M92FS for my accumulation. I never really cared for the slide mounted decocker because I was primarily a 1911 guy. I was in the last group to transition over to the issued M96D as a duty weapon and the DAO eliminated the decocker safety issue for me. The long but very smooth DAO worked great for me, but I do have fairly large hands with long fingers. I don't recall ever having a malfunction with my M96D, but admit there were some serious issues with the other M96D's that were issued to other Troopers.
Yes, every time a DAO version comes up, I never have the money. But, I will get one someday. I prefer the long double action pull.
 
The M9/92FS rocks, and it's one of the prettiest semi-auto pistols of all time. I'd prefer if it had a frame mounted safety/decocker, and a slightly thinner grip frame would be appreciated, but all in all it's a time tested, excellent platform. I prefer the classic models with no rail up front - they look much nicer that way.

Not to mention that the movies haven't steered me wrong yet!

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The M9/92FS rocks, and it's one of the prettiest semi-auto pistols of all time. I'd prefer if it had a frame mounted safety/decocker, and a slightly thinner grip frame would be appreciated, but all in all it's a time tested, excellent platform. I prefer the classic models with no rail up front - they look much nicer that way.

Not to mention that the movies haven't steered me wrong yet!

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Lethal-Weapon-Beretta-92F.jpeg

the-killer.jpg
 
The M9/92FS rocks, and it's one of the prettiest semi-auto pistols of all time. I'd prefer if it had a frame mounted safety/decocker, and a slightly thinner grip frame would be appreciated, but all in all it's a time tested, excellent platform. I prefer the classic models with no rail up front - they look much nicer that way.

Not to mention that the movies haven't steered me wrong yet!

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Lethal-Weapon-Beretta-92F.jpeg

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Movie guns mean a lot to some. Maybe that's why we have guns like the "Shockwave".
 
I purchased an M96 some years back. I opted for the .40 cal version because it's so easy to convert to 9mm simply by swapping to a 9mm barrel. The grip was a little on the thick side so I installed a set of composite grips that are way thinner and more comfortable. By far it has been one of the most reliable pistols I've ever 20171209_121815.webpowned. In this pic it actually has a 9mm slide installed that I bought from Beretta. The slide has more serrations on the left side so they sold it as a factory second even though if you didn't know you'd never notice. If it's black it's 9mm and if its stainless it's.40S&W.
 
… Some call it an obsolete, unreliable boat anchor with a grip only fit for a giant, with a poorly positioned safety decocker and dubious stopping power.

Light recoil, decent sights, and when well maintained

What are your thoughts on the Beretta M9?
Most of the issues are Training Issues. Plus the Training Issues were created by poor Trainers/Instructors.

The Beretta slide rail should be lubed every two weeks. My Police Department pays every two weeks so that was our reminder to lube the slide.

Still the best DA/SA 9mm pistol. JMHO
 
Let's broaden it out to the Beretta 92.

I lived through the transition from the M16A1 to the M16A2 and felt we lost more than we gained. I also lived through the transition from the 1911 to the M9 and felt the same.

It wasn't that moving to 9mm made sense, as it did. It's just the form factor of the M9 just didn't work for a much larger percentage of troops than was the case for the 1911. The M9s wide grip and long trigger reach made it difficult for many troops to shoot accurately. That was ironic given one of the selling points was the lower recoiling M9 would be more accurate for troops to shoot.

It's also a large frame pistol shooting a medium frame cartridge and consequently far larger than it needs to be.

I agree the M9 is very reliable when clean (and not worn out). The open top slide design has always been a plus in that regard. But open top slides also allow for a lot more potential for dust sand and dirt to enter the pistol, even in a flap holster. Add in rough phosphate finish magazines and fine desert sand and that reliability went south in a hurry. Add in an excessive and excessively repeated manual of arms and they also started breaking fire control parts prematurely.

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That said, I like the Beretta 92.

The single stack Italian made Compact M is great for concealed carry. Comfortable to carry and easy to conceal, but large enough to shoot extremely well at speed.

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The double stack Compact M has the same attributes but more magazine capacity. But that fatter mag causes the same problems that it does in the full size Model 92.

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That fat grip is uniquely Beretta as the CZ 75's double stack magazine grip isn't nearly as wide, not much wider than the single stack Compact M.

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I still like to carry it, but I had to find ultrathin grips and install a short reach trigger kit, to get the control with it that I want. And while I was at it. I also installed a short reset trigger bar to address the excessively long trigger reach as well as and extended mag release and a low profile de cock lever to address it's other faults.


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In my experience, I US military could have done a better job selecting a pistol during the M9 trials - both of them. They also could have and should have set better ergonomic requirements and then adopted a suitably modified Beretta 92, rather than just adopting the M9 in its basic M92 form.
 
I don't have large hands and the Beretta works fine. A five-hundred round familiarity trial will help one become accustomed to everything on the pistol. The large frame and weight are what makes the gun easy to shoot accurately. It's also much easier for beginners to learn to shoot well and is not intimidating as a lighter pistol with more recoil might be. I'm not fond of the 9mm cartridge, so I guess it's not the perfect pistol for me.
 
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