The Dreadful Song From The Alamo

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I don't want to interfere with XFuzz's Alamo topic, so will post this here. We'll hear both the movie version of, "El Deguello" and the authentic Mexican version, played at the Alamo, to indicate that all the defenders were to be slain; the song signals that no quarter will be given.

I thought this might be of interest.

Movie version, also heard in several other Western movies: YouTube - Lele Lauter in "Deguello"

Authentic Version: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VE1ydDg8uQ4&feature=related
 
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Very interesting.......I never knew about this. The song is hauntingly beautiful but with such a dreadful meaning. The Alamo defenders were a ballsy group to say the very least.
 
What surprises a lot of our out-of-state friends and family that we take to visit the Alamo is when they learn that the Mexican army of 1836 was considered the 4th largest army in the world. Sure, they had conscripted peasants as cannon fodder, but they also had professionally trained and equipped officers and troops as well.

Regards,

Dave
 
Having visited the Alamo several times, I was always amazed at how small it is, especially when the overwhelming odds are considered.

My first thought was, "they defended this little place for almost two weeks?"

I recommend visiting near sundown. You can palpably feel the historical awe.

What a thing it must have been to hear the trumpets so near, so certain, and so final.

Len
 
The "authentic" version sounded like a synthesizer to me. Sure wasn't a bugle or even a trumpet. I don't think the Mexicans had any electronic keyboards at the battle.
 
Having visited the Alamo several times, I was always amazed at how small it is, especially when the overwhelming odds are considered.

My first thought was, "they defended this little place for almost two weeks?"

I recommend visiting near sundown. You can palpably feel the historical awe.

What a thing it must have been to hear the trumpets so near, so certain, and so final.

Len

The Mexicans must have had an easy time sneaking up on them, what with all those tall buildings around it.
 
The Mexicans must have had an easy time sneaking up on them, what with all those tall buildings around it.

Travis and Bowie knew that the Mexicans were coming, but Santa Anna arrived in force sooner than expected. Travis had been pleading for reinforcements for a long time before the Mex. forces arrived.

Col. Fannin set out to reinforce the Alamo, but his transport wagons (what there were) got stuck,and he returned to Goliad. (Maybe Gonzales; I'd have to check.) His artillery also was unable to be transported.

Whatever the instruments were in the song, the tune is the authentic one. I think one instrument is a muted trumpet.

The text of the Mexican link is very informative, if biased.

The original Alamo complex was much larger. Only the central chapel now stands.

T-Star
 
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Santa Anna was an incompetent egotist. He didn't need to take the Alamo. He could have bottled up the defenders with a fraction of his forces and continued his pursuit of Sam Houston. The defenders knew what was going to happen before the Mexicans got there. That was their job - delay Santa Anna at all costs to allow Houston to raise an army. The wisdom of that was apparent by the victory at San Jacinto, a battle that my great great grandfather took part in.

Buck
 
There used to be a brass strip set in the sidewalk across the street from the Alamo, on Alamo Plaza, that delineated the original boundary walls of the Alamo. Don't know what buildings are there now, on the corner diagonal from the Post Office used to be a Woolworths. There was a Rexall Drugstore on the corner across from it as I recall.

I worked at Hemisfair in '68, remember walking down there at night to where I parked the car. It's an interesting place to be walking along at 2 in the morning. One's imagination runs wild when you're only 18.

As I recall, Houston had told Travis to abandon the Alamo and pull back since it could not be defended. Travis, being a fairly egotistical person, chose to disregard Houston and ...............

Fannin was an incompetent who could not make up his mind about leaving Goliad. His force actually left Goliad but forgot their supplies and had to return. Then delays occurred and the entire force surrendered to another Mexican force under one of Santa Ana's subordinate generals. Although they had surrendered, they were taken out in the woods and shot, the wounded were shot in the head as they lay in the hospital. As I recall, about 20 or 30 Texans escaped the slaughter and made their way to join Houston.

Gonzales actually did send a contingent to the Alamo, something like 30 men made their way to San Antonio, through the Mexican lines and reinforced Travis at the Alamo. They all died.

Only one man did not cross the line when Travis drew his famous line in the sand, Moses Rose, a former officer in Napoleons Army decided it wasn't in his best interest to remain, he slipped out of the fort that night and escaped. As I recall, he ultimately went back to France.

Santa Ana was actually enjoying his siesta at San Jacinto with a mulatto girl (whose name escapes me right now) who is the actual person for whom the song "The Yellow Rose of Texas" was written about. The Yellow refers to her being a mulatto or "yellow".

And, Deguello still sends a chill down the spine. It is actually a Moorish tune, played by the Moors during the conquest of Spain and adopted by the Spanish and ultimately, the Mexican Army.

Isn't it amazing how much of that 7th grade Texas History sticks with you ?


Dan R
 
Asleep At The Wheel has a very chilling version on their "Remember The Alamo" album. Probably my favorite version.
 
Having visited the Alamo several times, I was always amazed at how small it is, especially when the overwhelming odds are considered.

My first thought was, "they defended this little place for almost two weeks?"

I recommend visiting near sundown. You can palpably feel the historical awe.

What a thing it must have been to hear the trumpets so near, so certain, and so final.

Len

What you see when you visit the Alamo today is just a small part of what the defenders controlled during the battle. The defensive walls were much more extensive than what still exists. Here is a link to a artist rendition of what the site looked like before the battle.

http://members.cox.net/worthingtongames/images/FinalAlamoMap.jpg
 
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Opium seems more likely, and Santa Anna "married" (sham ceremony, and he already had a wife) a pretty local girl. After the post-nuptial night, he sent her to Mexico "for his old age". This is from, "The Alamo", by the late Lon Tinkle, which researched an enormous amount of records,both Texan and Mexican. This book originally was called, "Thirteen Days to Glory". It has an extensive biliography.
Many libraries should have it.

Some posts in this thread have been inaccurate, and I suggest readng this or a similar book to get the straight facts.

T-Star
 

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