The Dreadful Song From The Alamo

The Alamo is a sacred pilgrimage site. Today, it is a rose garden, but that battle set the stage for the much quicker Battle of San Jacinto a few miles from where I sit and another sacred pilgrimage site in which the Mexican Army was routed - Santa Anna reportedly found hiding in a dress. It does not pay to underestimate your enemy. The US annexation of Texas later lead to the Spanish American War which led to the expansion of the U.S. to the Pacific and beyond. Not bad for a bunch of pissed off good old boys.
 
I visited The Alamo the day after Christmas 6 years ago. I was insulted by all the Mexican people walking around Laughing! Nothing about The Alamo is funny!

Ivan

Be honest about this! Bet you the young Anglos in the area were laughing and screwing around too! Probably even many under 45 YO. Nearly no one seems to have any respect for what are to many of us older citizens "Sacred sites", such as the Alamo. I like to hope members of this forum are exceptions to this!
 
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I had the privilege a few years ago to tour the Alamo Village which is the movie set for the 1960 John Wayne movie north of Brackettville, Texas. While going through the memorabilia and other stuff there I ran across a factoid that indicated "El Deguello" was just a tune that John Wayne liked and wanted in the movie. The same tune was also used in another John Wayne flick, seems like it was in Rio Bravo. The story about the meaning of the tune may be a myth spread by John Wayne.
 
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The modern conservators don't like to be told they're wrong. There's a Deringer rifle on display that I told them twice was mislabeled; Derringer. It's still labeled that way on the accompanying card.
 
There used to be a brass strip set in the sidewalk across the street from the Alamo, on Alamo Plaza, that delineated the original boundary walls of the Alamo. Don't know what buildings are there now, on the corner diagonal from the Post Office used to be a Woolworths. There was a Rexall Drugstore on the corner across from it as I recall.

I worked at Hemisfair in '68, remember walking down there at night to where I parked the car. It's an interesting place to be walking along at 2 in the morning. One's imagination runs wild when you're only 18.

As I recall, Houston had told Travis to abandon the Alamo and pull back since it could not be defended. Travis, being a fairly egotistical person, chose to disregard Houston and ...............

Fannin was an incompetent who could not make up his mind about leaving Goliad. His force actually left Goliad but forgot their supplies and had to return. Then delays occurred and the entire force surrendered to another Mexican force under one of Santa Ana's subordinate generals. Although they had surrendered, they were taken out in the woods and shot, the wounded were shot in the head as they lay in the hospital. As I recall, about 20 or 30 Texans escaped the slaughter and made their way to join Houston.

Gonzales actually did send a contingent to the Alamo, something like 30 men made their way to San Antonio, through the Mexican lines and reinforced Travis at the Alamo. They all died.

Only one man did not cross the line when Travis drew his famous line in the sand, Moses Rose, a former officer in Napoleons Army decided it wasn't in his best interest to remain, he slipped out of the fort that night and escaped. As I recall, he ultimately went back to France.

Santa Ana was actually enjoying his siesta at San Jacinto with a mulatto girl (whose name escapes me right now) who is the actual person for whom the song "The Yellow Rose of Texas" was written about. The Yellow refers to her being a mulatto or "yellow".

And, Deguello still sends a chill down the spine. It is actually a Moorish tune, played by the Moors during the conquest of Spain and adopted by the Spanish and ultimately, the Mexican Army.

Isn't it amazing how much of that 7th grade Texas History sticks with you ?


Dan R
I just found out recently that a family I have known locally here in SE Arizona is descended from one of the Immortal 32 that came to the relief at the Alamo. His name was George C. Kimble. What a man he was, they had to have known their chances were not good, but they went anyway.
 
The 'authentic' version is taken down..

Does anybody know another place I can listen to the real thing?

Spanish music, especially with trumpets, can really get your attention that something dramatic is about to happen and somebody is gonna die.:eek:

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We had the opportunity to visit the Alamo and left there with a huge lump in our throats.
I don't know how anyone can visit it and not come away with the same feeling.


I am originally from CA. but moved to TX. quick as I could. I have lived in around San Antonio for 40 sum odd years, been to The Alamo many, many times and still come away awed.

A Shrine for sure.
 
Been to the Alamo twice. Most folks inside the actual chapel area were quiet and respective. The adjacent museum shop was a madhouse. In the shop is a diorama of the battle. It is very impressive.
 
Very interesting.......I never knew about this. The song is hauntingly beautiful but with such a dreadful meaning. The Alamo defenders were a ballsy group to say the very least.

It was also predominently featured in: Rio Bravo--which is kind where John Wayne got his interest about going forward with making The Alamo. I love that movies theme song which is: The Green Leaves of Summer.
 
I have been to the Alamo twice and looked at the paintings of defenders. I spent some time there, and all the while I had this feeling, a sacred respect.
I felt the same at Civil War battlefield sites. I can't imagine how I would handle a visit to the Arizona or the WWII and Vietnam memorials.
Heck, I have some sand from the beach at Normandy that I can feel the blood and sacrifice it represents.
History, and a sense of history is not taught and is soon to be lost along with the pride and loyalty it teaches.
 
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Try this link to the authentic version. Posted tonight, 1 Jan., 2017.


And this is the first time I wrote the digits for the new year!


Just typing El Deguello in the Search blank got many listings for both this and the John Wayne version.
 
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Here's, The Green Leaves of Summer, from the movie, The Alamo, 1960.


Nothing to do with El Deguello, but a fine piece of music, nonetheless.


(A commercial may intrude at the first.)
 
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The Green Leaves of Summer IS the finest piece of music ive ever heard. Its one that can get one to thinking and leave the eyes teary wet.
 
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