dwever
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I am not trolling for a debate. This is only my experience, yours may be different and I may be wrong.
All three of the pictured together PC revolvers have been to TK Custom for Defensive Action jobs to improve their otherwise fairly good DA stroke. Other have gone for the same work that are not pictured.
This week I acquired a new M&P R8 for around $1,100 because my previously acquired PC TRR8 was simply the best shooting revolver I have ever owned, period; and, the shrouded barrel design is stupid accurate. But again, like the TRR8, the M&P R8 has action that is generally smooth, tight, and even, but it continues the Perf Ctr's trend of way too heavy DA out of the box; this latest purchase was after checking out two samples in our city, and the better sample I purchased even needs the SA lightened up a little bit.
People will tend to comment that the DA work is unnecessary, but often they've become so used to heavy, and sometimes stacking and gritty action, that they then experience one of the proper actions and comments change with their astonishment. But that misses the point, the big reason the action job is necessary is to have a competent defensive weapon that does not surrender speed and accuracy to a semi-auto. I'd rather have nice fit and smooth surfaces that equal smoothness and uniformity of stroke than low weight. Besides, reduce the spring tension too much and you also reduce reliability and speed to next shot.
I've competed favorably head to head with semi-autos using a S&W PC 627 UDR that had only a defensive action job; and, I've qualified on our agency's full course-of-fire with a 586 L-Comp (seven moon clip reloads). Neither revolver would have given me as favorable results had I used the out of the box action the weapons delivered with from the S&W Performance Center. The 586 L-Comp was particularly transformed by a defensive action job. And, it's not that the revolver smiths lighten the action as much as they just get the fitment and polish so complete, that you experience a much easier weapon to fire accurately with speed.
So I am again paying over $300 additional with postage to get my revolver right as a defensive fire arms. The TK work is an unnecessary expense to some of you reading this. Absolutely necessary to me.
I'm not hating on S&W PC weapons. I carry them. I am griping that, as I prepare yet another for shipping to TK Custom, that I'd like to see PC DA that is in keeping with what a brand like 'Performance Center' suggests. In 2008 I got a PC 627 UDR and PC 627 5" that did not need the extra work, but not since. Heck, Colt just about pulled it off a generation ago with the Python, that was what, $300 at K-Mart? But now, S&W will let you send it back to the PC for extra money to get it the way it should of been.
P.S. The exceptions that were good to go out of the box would be a 627 2.625" and 627 5", both bought around 2008. The rest have needed action jobs, all Perf Ctr., 686+ 2.5", 586 L-Comp, two 627 UDR's, 327 TRR8, 327 M&P R8.
I'll mention parenthetically that I can drop $472 for an LE priced Glock 34, load the three included magazines, and pass our agency's course-of-fire out of the box virtually every time and with two reloads instead of seven. So the economics would seemingly continue current trends.
All three of the pictured together PC revolvers have been to TK Custom for Defensive Action jobs to improve their otherwise fairly good DA stroke. Other have gone for the same work that are not pictured.
This week I acquired a new M&P R8 for around $1,100 because my previously acquired PC TRR8 was simply the best shooting revolver I have ever owned, period; and, the shrouded barrel design is stupid accurate. But again, like the TRR8, the M&P R8 has action that is generally smooth, tight, and even, but it continues the Perf Ctr's trend of way too heavy DA out of the box; this latest purchase was after checking out two samples in our city, and the better sample I purchased even needs the SA lightened up a little bit.
People will tend to comment that the DA work is unnecessary, but often they've become so used to heavy, and sometimes stacking and gritty action, that they then experience one of the proper actions and comments change with their astonishment. But that misses the point, the big reason the action job is necessary is to have a competent defensive weapon that does not surrender speed and accuracy to a semi-auto. I'd rather have nice fit and smooth surfaces that equal smoothness and uniformity of stroke than low weight. Besides, reduce the spring tension too much and you also reduce reliability and speed to next shot.
I've competed favorably head to head with semi-autos using a S&W PC 627 UDR that had only a defensive action job; and, I've qualified on our agency's full course-of-fire with a 586 L-Comp (seven moon clip reloads). Neither revolver would have given me as favorable results had I used the out of the box action the weapons delivered with from the S&W Performance Center. The 586 L-Comp was particularly transformed by a defensive action job. And, it's not that the revolver smiths lighten the action as much as they just get the fitment and polish so complete, that you experience a much easier weapon to fire accurately with speed.
So I am again paying over $300 additional with postage to get my revolver right as a defensive fire arms. The TK work is an unnecessary expense to some of you reading this. Absolutely necessary to me.
I'm not hating on S&W PC weapons. I carry them. I am griping that, as I prepare yet another for shipping to TK Custom, that I'd like to see PC DA that is in keeping with what a brand like 'Performance Center' suggests. In 2008 I got a PC 627 UDR and PC 627 5" that did not need the extra work, but not since. Heck, Colt just about pulled it off a generation ago with the Python, that was what, $300 at K-Mart? But now, S&W will let you send it back to the PC for extra money to get it the way it should of been.
P.S. The exceptions that were good to go out of the box would be a 627 2.625" and 627 5", both bought around 2008. The rest have needed action jobs, all Perf Ctr., 686+ 2.5", 586 L-Comp, two 627 UDR's, 327 TRR8, 327 M&P R8.
I'll mention parenthetically that I can drop $472 for an LE priced Glock 34, load the three included magazines, and pass our agency's course-of-fire out of the box virtually every time and with two reloads instead of seven. So the economics would seemingly continue current trends.
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