The Last M&P

[Rastoff]

Does CA have the 10# trigger requirement?

No, California does not.

 

[bxny10455]

I have a Ca family member who bought a M&P9 last year with a 10lb trigger. The gun was new & tested with a Lyman.

 

[Gyrene6891]

As I have stated many times, just another reason why I do not and will not ever live in CA!!!

 

[Wenzomatic]

Does the CA law grandfather in your previous weapons? I would hope so. The legislators out there are insanely stupid about gun logic and crime prevention, I wish you luck...


Mike Wenzel
Oklahoma City

 

[2001gmc]

I forgot to add, I got this one at the same time because it will probably be the last Ruger I'll ever get:

Not as much as me. This is the first time I've bought a gun and been angry that I did it. More specifically, angry that I had to.

Man that's a nice looking gun Rastoff.

 

[N4KVE]

While I feel bad for people who live in Commie states, it's about time these companies stood up to these dirtbags & said screw you. We're not going to take this **** any longer. Other companies have said adios to Ca, & S&W won't be the last. Maybe that's what these dirtbags want, but S&W should cut them off completely. No LE sales too. People in Ca can figure out how to buy a gun if they really wanted it. GARY

 

[blujax01]

I have a Ca family member who bought a M&P9 last year with a 10lb trigger. The gun was new & tested with a Lyman.

It may well have been a Mass. compliant gun sold in Cali. A gun shop asks a distributer for a particular make and model and the distributer may or may not say: "I have one that's Mass. compliant, do you still want it?" The gun store may or may not know or care what that means, especially if the make and model is a hot item.

Happens all the time.

And you can replace the trigger spring.

 

[skip4309]

Why are you disappointed with S&W for not giving into this bogus CA pressure? How many hoops should gun manufacturers succumb to because of ridiculous political agendas aimed at disarming you? Where would it stop if they did?

I agree...the gun manufactures are on you side...its your problem that your state is anti-gun...its tough...I feel for those who cant enjoy our 2nd Amendment rights...

 

[soad]

S&W did not put CA gun buyers in this situation. The CA citizens that elected the current manifest of left-wing legislators did this.

While the fault lies directly with the CA legislature, who is harmed by SW reaction to the law?

The liberals? No

The legislature? No

Pro-gun Californians? Yes


Look at it this way....you have a boss who is an ***. He gives you a BS assignment. You deal with it, do a good job, and piss him off. Or, you tell him to shove it and quit. He's happy cause thats what he wanted...and now you can't pay your mortgage.

SW told them to shove it...and they could not be happier.

 

[N4KVE]

It may well have been a Mass. compliant gun sold in Cali. A gun shop asks a distributer for a particular make and model and the distributer may or may not say: "I have one that's Mass. compliant, do you still want it?" The gun store may or may not know or care what that means, especially if the make and model is a hot item.

Happens all the time.

And you can replace the trigger spring.

As someone who works for a FFL, I can tell you this happens all the time. As long as a gun can be legally sold in a state, it could show up, even though that particular state doesn't require that feature. My particular 40c came with a mag safety [gun won't fire w/o a mag] even though my state doesn't require it. GARY

 

[Rastoff]

I have a Ca family member who bought a M&P9 last year with a 10lb trigger. The gun was new & tested with a Lyman.

I believe you. That doesn't make it a law in CA. Neither does it mean it was originally intended for MA either. Could just be a poor job at S&W. The M&P trigger is its weak point. With a better trigger it would probably push Glock off the map.

Man that's a nice looking gun Rastoff.

Thanks. I just got out to shoot it today. It's a nice shooter too. I've wanted both of these for a long time. I'm glad I had the savings to get them, but mad as hell that I had to now.

 

[chances R]

Well, I'm pretty disappointed in California. If all of those interested in their Rights, and what is the right thing to do; maybe you all could re-establish the law as put forth by the US Constitution. A lot of people have died thru the years for you all to piss away your rights.

 

[JColumbus]

One thing that bothers me, is this "if my state is fine, then there's nothing to worry about" mentality. I am sometimes guilty of this, as well. We need to start looking at our rights as a national issue, as we would a 50 member tribe. If they mess with you, they mess with me, and the other way around. We need to get involved in other state's affairs, like the liberals do. They send people to other states to F S up. Transplanted police chiefs, mayors, and governor candidates.

We need to start donating to organizations, like CALGUNS, GOC, and CRPA. We need to write and call THEIR legislators and attend their rallies, if you can. I saw a recent video from TheHossUSMC, who spoke at one of CA's rallies.

It's time we all come together, against gun control nonsense, in ALL states. The libs aren't succeeding cause they're doing a damn great job. They're succeeding because we aren't doing a damn thing.

I'm broke as hell right now. I vow to donate what little I can to a CA pro gun organization by the middle of the month. Please, follow suite. If you haven't joined the NRA, DO IT! GOA... Let's get moving "Patriots"! God bless.

 

[Wee Hooker]

Might be worth cashing in a chunk of your retirement 401K and investing in CA " preban" guns. Their value and demand is likely to double once those regs fall into place.

 

[cbr6864]

"Miracle" seems like an overstatement. Smith & Wesson could just comply with the CA law. It appears that for less than $1/gun (or some similar small amount) they could meet the requirement. I am pretty disappointed in S&W that they have adopted this position and put CA gun buyers in this situation. My experience with S&W has been that they have great customer service; but, to stop selling guns to CA over an ideological objection has really tarnished their reputation.

I don't blame them, why would any firearms company sell within the state of CA. It seems every year they come up with another law or restriction more ridiculous than the last. From a financial stand point it just makes sense to stop shipping too California or any other state with equally ridiculous laws. What do you expect them to do, manufacture a different gun for each liberal state?

Want things to change then get all those currently in office out! Here is my problem with people from liberal states, they move to places like Texas and try to change our way of life. We are seeing a political and social shift in our way of life. Our country is a mix of socialism with a little democracy mixed in the problem is our country was not founded as either, we started this great nation as a free republic.