The latest on the Colorado River water crisis

[bluetopper]

I really don't think y'all realize how hard it is to move that much water that far. And as for doing away with flooding...how much water CAN you move...not nearly enough to prevent even flooding I have seen near the Mississippi. We are talking trillions of gallons. Where would you put it after you got it to a destination? And with the incompetence of the waterboards and the people that work for them...how much loss to evaporation in California?? I was talking to the irrigation district "engineer" locally and he said they had a pipe broken that was squirting water at least 50 ft. I remarked...well that's hydraulics for you. He looked at me like I had 2 heads...said..hydraulics?? I'm talking about water. Seriously especially as a way to stop flooding...I doubt it can be done...and to be honest...to transfer water to a place that doesn't have a clue about responsible use of the water they have would not only be ridiculous but not a responsible use of the taxpayers monies...oh and don't forget..taking the floodwaters at the Mississippi's terminus...means you've already had millions...no billions of gallons or more of water flood the upper reaches of that river. or any other flooded river systems. Most floods ARE localized you know...at least in the original state. This isn't a political discussion...Just a common sense look at moving all the water y'all are talking of. And...even though it doesn't seem like it would be a problem, doing away with flooding would also have damaging ecological concerns

Pumping enough water out of the Mississippi to prevent flooding is impossible. It just is a viable source of the water "needs" of the western US.

 

[Countrycuz]

Maybe just drill deeper and steal the water from China

 

[delcrossv]

Maybe just drill deeper and steal the water from China

Do I detect....

 

[BLACKHAWKNJ]

This is sort like a 21st Century version of the Dust Bowl. Or Khruschev's Virgin Lands campaign.

 

[Skeet 028]

Pumping enough water out of the Mississippi to prevent flooding is impossible. It just is a viable source of the water "needs" of the western US.

Let's at least call the above exactly what it is. The theft of water from the Mississippi and sending it to somewhere the water is needed...for people to live in a desert. You know they won't just take water when there is a surplus...they've been stealing water in CA for a 100 years.The great rivers are only at flood stage at short times of the year. Move floodwaters when it is available! OK! But that isn't what would happen. Look at the Colorado...so much is taken..and wasted that reservoirs are being depleted and there is hardly ANY water left where it used to run into the sea. The greedy scum sucking pigs would even eventually suck the Mississippi dry if they could...and say to H with the people who live and rely on it. Snail darters??They would destroy the great freshwater delta swamps in Southern La. They would not care in the least...because it's only a useless swamp

 

[LVSteve]

I finally looked up the Snail Darter after seeing multiple references to it. Looks like it is the final nail in the coffin of taking water from the Mississippi, that fish would be considered an invasive species.

 

[coltle6920]

Who doesn't like a good conspiracy theory once in awhile? Mark my words.

“Clark County emergency managers are aware of a leak in a Kinder Morgan gas pipeline in California. This pipeline feeds gas storage facilities in Southern Nevada with unleaded and diesel fuel. We are currently monitoring the situation, believe we have adequate supply, and do not anticipate an immediate impact on gas availability.”

A possible Quid Pro Quo? We'll trade you gas for water.

 

[LVSteve]

Who doesn't like a good conspiracy theory once in awhile? Mark my words.



A possible Quid Pro Quo? We'll trade you gas for water.

That CalNev pipeline does not have good history.

San Bernardino train disaster - Wikipedia

The people that lived in Duffy Street heard rumors that there were people in Vegas saying stuff like, "My car is worth more than a house on Duffy Street, and I'm not having it idled. Turn the pipeline back on".

 

[LCC]

250,000 swimming pools in LA County alone, with 1.34M pools in the state.
Average pool water use each year = 30,000 gallons.
So for LA alone, 250,000 x 30,000 = 7.5 billion gallons of water each year.
Average household water consumption in a year? 11,000 gallons.
Those LA pools = enough water for 700,000 households for a year.
Water the average suburban lawn uses yearly = 35,000 gallons
Acres of lawn being irrigated in CA = over 4 million acres.
CA doesn't have a water problem, it has a water utilization problem.

 

[LVSteve]

CA doesn't have a water problem, it has a water utilization problem.

The Vegas valley is just as bad. A while ago, one of the golf course communities established here in the 80s decided that it had to remove the unnecessary grass that wasn't actually on the course. The grinding of the residents' teeth was recorded as an earthquake by the USGS. The idea that ANY grass would be removed was total anathema to them.

 

[Inusuit]

Average person with a bluegrass lawn, a swimming pool, and a golf club membership won't care about these issues until it is too late.

 

[smithman 10]

Living in a desert

My son lives in Riverside, California, about 60 miles east of LA. The riverbed is dry.

California, it's a great place - to visit. And a great place to live - for maybe 10 million folks.

 

[oldbrownhat]

The Vegas valley is just as bad. A while ago, one of the golf course communities established here in the 80s decided that it had to remove the unnecessary grass that wasn't actually on the course. The grinding of the residents' teeth was recorded as an earthquake by the USGS. The idea that ANY grass would be removed was total anathema to them.

LOL. Just wait until there is NO water for the course and they have to replace it all with Astroturf

 

[bigwheelzip]

LOL. Just wait until there is NO water for the course and they have to replace it all with Astroturf

Inlaws community in FL watered grass with waste water from the sewage treatment plant. The grass didn't mind but overspray made a mess on cars parked outside.

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[oldbrownhat]

Inlaws community in FL watered grass with waste water from the sewage treatment plant. The grass didn't mind but overspray made a mess on cars parked outside.

I'll bet that caught a lot of flak! I wonder what water reclamation programs they have in place in NM etc. Separating "grey" from "black" water is often done now and they can treat raw sewage to be acceptable. Apparently they can also create bio gas from sewage, but there doesn't seem to be a lot of enthusiasm in the mad dash to electrify everything.

 

[soFlaNative]

Inlaws community in FL watered grass with treated waste water from the sewage treatment plant. The grass didn't mind but overspray made a mess on cars parked outside.

Small addition.
Okay for irrigation use but still very non potable with a bit of a smell

 

[LCC]

One thing CA does do (live in Oregon myself) with it's enormous economic base is provide more tax money to the Fed's than money it receives from Fed programs, which helps offset those states that receive more in Fed programs than they pay to the Fed's in taxes.
CA has an endless water supply to tap, the Pacific Ocean. If Israel can keep itself watered through desalination, when push comes to shove so can CA.

 

[Skeet 028]

Sounds good but that won't work..They have no power to run the desalination plant...And God forbid building anything to power anything else including the 30million electric cars they to see in 7 or 8 years. No, CA will just find another way to use someone else's water. And make it look legal...kinda sorta

 

[Narragansett]

Can we just give CA back to Mexico?