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Does anyone think a new model 41 is worth $1300
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In a word NO Unless you are the type of person who just has to have a brand new firearm.
You can buy an older model, probably much older than you think and get a better quality pistol. New ones are nice, but not as nice as the old ones.
In a word NO Unless you are the type of person who just has to have a brand new firearm.
You can buy an older model, probably much older than you think and get a better quality pistol. New ones are nice, but not as nice as the old ones.
The MSRP of the base model is roughly $1370 and the Perf center model is a bit over $1600.
So a Perf Center model at $1300 might not be a bad deal.
So a Perf Center model at $1300 might not be a bad deal.
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I know there is the blue book value don't have it what years would be the ones to look out for is there a 1 or 2 in model numbers model41/1
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What years are really good to look out for
I don't know if it so much the year of production as the condition of the individual piece. With a little bit of looking you can find a Model 41 in real good shape for a lot less than $1300.00 that was probably acquired by the shop from the estate of a deceased target shooter. Let someone else pay for the depreciation off the price brand new.
Depreciation only applies if you buy and then sell. If you hold on to it long enough, there will be no depreciation. My first S&W, a Model 28 cost me $121 brand new in the box. It's worth a bit more than that today. I'm betting a new Model 41 will be the same, especially if S&W ever decides to discontinue the model, which wouldn't surprise me.
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My 1967 Model 41 cost $194.00 in 1967. I paid $1000.00 for it.
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I have not owned a model 41 Smith, would like to shoot one someday though.
As an alternative you could check out the old High Standard Citation with adjustable trigger and bull bbl and have one heck of shooter for less than half the price if you are after and excellent target 22 pistol.
However I understand that it may be the Smith Model 41 that you truly want..............
Karl
As an alternative you could check out the old High Standard Citation with adjustable trigger and bull bbl and have one heck of shooter for less than half the price if you are after and excellent target 22 pistol.
However I understand that it may be the Smith Model 41 that you truly want..............
Karl
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Ypu will NOT get my 1958 Year model M41 for $1300.00 this year or even within the next few years. The quality is just too good for me to let go of it for so little. Besides I also have really neat serial no's on it as well.
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What something is worth is really in the eye of the beholder. Back in 1979 I paid about $460 for my M41 and though that was ridiculous then but I really wanted it. It's been shot for 38 years and I could probably get at least $900 to $1000 for it because it's still in great shape, original box, papers and tools. Not selling it though.
In 1979 the only two choices I was considering was the High Standard and the M41. I really liked the HS a bit better but was totally turned off by the controls. The magazine release was a pull type release at the bottom of the grip frame (very clumsy to use) and the slide release was on the right side of the gun which for any right handed person is dumb IMO because it's quite awkward to use when you are holding the gun in your right hand. If it were not for those two things I would have bought the High Standard. I think it was about $75 bucks less at the time.
Anyway, my M41 has served me quite well, is a very high end and exquisitely made target pistol and now worth 2 1/2 times what I paid.
Today there are more choices in 22's. If you are looking strictly for a plinker, look at the new Ruger Mark IV. It's vastly improved over their other Marks, about 1/3 the price of the M41 but not in the same ballpark as far as trigger, over all quality, fit & finish. Ruger triggers usually kind of suck - OK for plinking but not good for serious target work. Like comparing a Kia to a Mercedes - but yes they will both get you to the office.
You also have Browning's Buck Mark, S&W Victory, etc, but again IMHO in high end .22 target pistols the M41 is kind of by itself UNLESS you want to buy a Volquartzen converted Ruger Mark IV which price wise is about the same as the M41 or higher depending on the model.
You also might consider a used M41 which IMO are a bit better than new ones and you could save about $400 bucks (with tax) for a nice one. The reason I say better is because the older ones have solid Walnut Grips instead of laminated ones, they have real roll markings instead on laser engraved, the bluing is a bit more blue and nicer than the new finish S&W is currently using (I believe a little more durable too) and the magazines are all metal as opposed to the new ones with the plastic followers.
So the bottom line is you have to weigh what it's worth to you. BTW not that I have a crystal ball, but I too would not be surprised if one day soon S&W discontinues the M41. It is not that popular a .22 anymore and probably one of their most expensive guns to manufacture. They also have a few cheaper .22's which are vastly out selling the M41 so I would not be shocked to find out it was discontinued one day. That will only make the prices higher.
In 1979 the only two choices I was considering was the High Standard and the M41. I really liked the HS a bit better but was totally turned off by the controls. The magazine release was a pull type release at the bottom of the grip frame (very clumsy to use) and the slide release was on the right side of the gun which for any right handed person is dumb IMO because it's quite awkward to use when you are holding the gun in your right hand. If it were not for those two things I would have bought the High Standard. I think it was about $75 bucks less at the time.
Anyway, my M41 has served me quite well, is a very high end and exquisitely made target pistol and now worth 2 1/2 times what I paid.
Today there are more choices in 22's. If you are looking strictly for a plinker, look at the new Ruger Mark IV. It's vastly improved over their other Marks, about 1/3 the price of the M41 but not in the same ballpark as far as trigger, over all quality, fit & finish. Ruger triggers usually kind of suck - OK for plinking but not good for serious target work. Like comparing a Kia to a Mercedes - but yes they will both get you to the office.
You also have Browning's Buck Mark, S&W Victory, etc, but again IMHO in high end .22 target pistols the M41 is kind of by itself UNLESS you want to buy a Volquartzen converted Ruger Mark IV which price wise is about the same as the M41 or higher depending on the model.
You also might consider a used M41 which IMO are a bit better than new ones and you could save about $400 bucks (with tax) for a nice one. The reason I say better is because the older ones have solid Walnut Grips instead of laminated ones, they have real roll markings instead on laser engraved, the bluing is a bit more blue and nicer than the new finish S&W is currently using (I believe a little more durable too) and the magazines are all metal as opposed to the new ones with the plastic followers.
So the bottom line is you have to weigh what it's worth to you. BTW not that I have a crystal ball, but I too would not be surprised if one day soon S&W discontinues the M41. It is not that popular a .22 anymore and probably one of their most expensive guns to manufacture. They also have a few cheaper .22's which are vastly out selling the M41 so I would not be shocked to find out it was discontinued one day. That will only make the prices higher.
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Plus that the model can be a sensitive lady which needs treatment therafter.
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I bought two at an estate sale last Saturday. I won't tell you what I paid because I don't want to start a riot on here. I definitely got the deal of a lifetime on them. I have wanted a Model 41 since I was a kid. Now I have two.
The 7-1/2" pistol had never been fired as far as I can tell. The 5-1/2" pistol had, but not very much. I have probably had 10 offers to buy them over the last week. I keep telling everybody to look for them at my estate sale
Here are a couple of pics:
The 7-1/2" pistol had never been fired as far as I can tell. The 5-1/2" pistol had, but not very much. I have probably had 10 offers to buy them over the last week. I keep telling everybody to look for them at my estate sale
Here are a couple of pics:
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Really?......Mine(and others) just run & run & run......Do you own one?
If you try and toss Uncle Bob's Bucket o' Bulk .22 down the gullet of a 41, you should not be surprised when said 41 informs you of its displeasure.
If you want something that doesn't care what ammunition you use, then get a Ruger.
Also, if you're--judging by your Tapatalk signature--trying to use Euro-spec .22LR, then the 41 may or may not work. No different than buying a European match pistol and trying to get it to shoot CCI.
Beyond that, a 41 takes very little effort relative to comparable pistols.
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Normally you have to pay for Quality. Those that recognize the quality in a S&W 41 do not part with them easily. I think they are just as good a value now as they were 50 plus years ago
I have had a few 41's. I sold them when I wanted something else. I of course did not get $1300 for any of them. I have always kept all of my Hi Standards.
Anyway, there are many VERY high quality 41's out there, IF you just wait and pounce on them.
I recently got a Bob Loveless Field Gun for, well, umm, $816.00,
and got another matching date, (1969,) 41, 5 1/2" for $850.00,
in very good condition, (one mag, no box.)
The good one's ARE out there.
Jim
Anyway, there are many VERY high quality 41's out there, IF you just wait and pounce on them.
I recently got a Bob Loveless Field Gun for, well, umm, $816.00,
and got another matching date, (1969,) 41, 5 1/2" for $850.00,
in very good condition, (one mag, no box.)
The good one's ARE out there.
Jim
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As I posted in another thread, I bought a 41 yesterday, a late 1979/early 1980 vintage with 7" barrel, 4 mags, the original box, paperwork, and cleaning kit, nearly LNIB, for $900 from my local Cabelas, and they had a second one, with 3 or 4 mags, but no box, etc., 1989 vintage for either $950 or $1000. I have sought a Model 41 for many years, and have considered a new one a few times, another LGS has them new for about $1200, but I have always preferred to buy older Smiths when I can.
I cannot speak to the differences between an early 41 and one manufactured this year, but I can speak of the quality differences between some of the current production classic line revolvers vs the vintage models they are patterned after: While still excellent firearms, the newer ones just don't feel as smooth or as tight as the older manufactured models do. Additionally, whereas I know that CNC machining and automation has decreased the variance from one pistol to the next while increasing production quantities and reducing cost per unit, I feel like there is something lost in the feel or character, as well as the fit and finish of a firearm once the human element is removed from the manufacturing process.
Maybe I've just bought into the stigmatism of "vintage equals higher quality," however there is just something different in how the newer guns feel and perform as compared their vintage counterparts. Not necessarily good or bad in any way, just different.
I cannot speak to the differences between an early 41 and one manufactured this year, but I can speak of the quality differences between some of the current production classic line revolvers vs the vintage models they are patterned after: While still excellent firearms, the newer ones just don't feel as smooth or as tight as the older manufactured models do. Additionally, whereas I know that CNC machining and automation has decreased the variance from one pistol to the next while increasing production quantities and reducing cost per unit, I feel like there is something lost in the feel or character, as well as the fit and finish of a firearm once the human element is removed from the manufacturing process.
Maybe I've just bought into the stigmatism of "vintage equals higher quality," however there is just something different in how the newer guns feel and perform as compared their vintage counterparts. Not necessarily good or bad in any way, just different.
I love shooting my 41. I picked mine up a few years ago and didn't know that much about this model at the time. I guess you could say I "lucked" into it. Have purchased a bunch of 22's since that time and the only other one I like even close to the 41 is this space gun. You would have to shoot it to understand...if you aren't familiar with this one.
To the OP's question...If you are patient and look around you can usually find a used 41 for a good price because there are so many of them out there...unless you had to have the new rail...save your money and buy a used one.
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I bought two at an estate sale last Saturday. I won't tell you what I paid because I don't want to start a riot on here. I definitely got the deal of a lifetime on them. I have wanted a Model 41 since I was a kid. Now I have two.
The 7-1/2" pistol had never been fired as far as I can tell. The 5-1/2" pistol had, but not very much. I have probably had 10 offers to buy them over the last week. I keep telling everybody to look for them at my estate sale
Here are a couple of pics:
How long do we have to wait. Are you in good health ?
DD357
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I'd be patient and wait and see if I could find a used one 850-900 before buying a new one.
I have owned 3 Mod 41's over the years, and they were good guns, but I could never shoot any of them as well as I did a High Standard Victor. I have switched the last 6-7 years to an IZH35M with a Burris FastFire3, and it seems to work best for me currently. Of course I'm old, eyes are not great, and can't hold the gun steady any longer. But I still like to shoot.
They are not inexpensive, but you can find early models for under $1000. Skip the new version and find an older model........you just have to be vigilant and pounce with the cash in hand.
These grips are beautiful! I saw a pair that were almost twins of these on a table at the Des Moines gunshow this weekend for $80 and I passed as I have just hit my gun budget too hard in the last week. I think this is going to haunt me, they sure would have looked nice on my model 41 that has laminated grips on it.
