The new E series CSX

[Fastbolt]

Fast bolt, look at the Shadow II Compact. If you can get over the fact it’s a CZ, and not a Smith, I think you’d be please with one.

Sorry, not a CZ enthusiast.

 

[hudson69]

it is possible.

you would need new fire control assembly and trigger assembly

Would you know how to go about procuring one of these?

 

[Mongo1958]

I might take a closer look at one of the WA-compliant versions (3.6" only??) after we move and get settled. I wouldn't mind reverting back to my original SA technique (longtime 1911 guy) ... but it would REALLY interest me if they introduced a .40 model. Otherwise, a Shield 40 is becoming really interesting to me. I can't forget the way I was pleasantly surprised by how nicely the T&E Shield 40 we had for a while handled on our range. It acquitted itself very well in both controllability and practical accuracy, using our 180gr duty ammo of that time. I remember thinking that I ought to trade-in my M&P 40C for one, but I sat on my hands and never got around to it.

It would be even better, from my biased perspective of having taken so many S&W armorer classes , if I could take an armorer class for the CSX. I dunno if they even offer one, though, since it's not exactly a weapon being marketed for LE use.

I saw a video on the complete detailed teardown on the CSX. It did not look like fun.
But yeah. a 40 cal would be a good idea for the CSX and the Shield plus.

 

[Mongo1958]

A semi-decent take on a recipe done by everyone since 1911. No real exciting flavors and certainly not pushing boundaries… it’s pistol… I mean… culinary monotony. But hey… grilled cheese sure is good.

lol.

The legendary 1911 is the most popular and reproduced gun in history by over 100 manufactures all over the planet, and he calls it a cheese samitch.
LOL

 

[Mongo1958]

I wonder if the new trigger can be added to the Gen 1, non-E CSX's?

I called S&W and they said, probably not.
I watched this video, and it would more than likely need more than a new trigger.
https://youtu.be/fnyyIqjAoCU

 

[zaitcev]

Too bad they missed an opportunity to re-profile it for Equalizer/Plus magazines.

 

[03hemi]

Fast bolt, look at the Shadow II Compact. If you can get over the fact it’s a CZ, and not a Smith, I think you’d be please with one.

Let's be honest, a CZ would be a vast improvement and up-charge compared to S&W.

 

[Mongo1958]

Just added a Talon Grip to the CSX to take up a lot of the empty space on the frame. It feels much better too.

 

[Fastbolt]

I saw a video on the complete detailed teardown on the CSX. It did not look like fun.
But yeah. a 40 cal would be a good idea for the CSX and the Shield plus.

Depends on someone's training and experience (in applying their training).

I just went through a pristine 6906 for my brother, who had stumbled a great deal for it in the original box. Looked pretty much LNIB. Flash-chromed hammer/trigger, with older drawbar, aluminum mainspring plunger and steel disconnector. It had the straight breech face cut and wide barrel tab, though, as well as the revised (longer) ejector. Very nice.

He wanted some MIM parts for the improved tolerances and smoother DA trigger, and I gave it an armorer inspection.

He said the ejection pattern had been all over the place when he'd fired a couple magazines loads, so I checked the extractor, the extractor fit (Go/No-Go Bar & Flag gauges) and the extractor spring tension. The extractor hook edge and fit was text book, but the extractor spring tension fell at least a pound below the minimum factory spec (checked with the Force Dial gauge S&W had armorers use). Hmmm.

Well, after the 'not unusual' experience of beating on the solid extractor pin with an 8oz ball peen hammer and a 'starter' punch to break it free, I pulled the extractor pin, extractor and its spring. I replaced the spring with a new standard production spring (unpainted), and noticed it stood a little prouder in the spring hole.

I reassembled it to check the spring tension on the gauge and saw it now fell within the lower end of the normal range. The bench checks (gauges and dial) rechecked within normal specs, and I told him to take it home and test-fire to confirm normal functioning. I expect the ejection pattern will probably settle down.

That was a nice 6906. There was very light wear on the aluminum frame rails, and the firing pin channel & spring, and the drawbar plunger, spring and its channel were so clean it probably didn't have many more (if any) rounds than the 2 magazine loads my brother had fired through it after buying it, and maybe a factory test-fire magazine. Everything inside the frame was really clean, with very little fouling from having been fired, even in the nooks and crannies. Lucky guy to have found it ... still in the S&W wrapping paper and cardboard box, manual, etc.

Anyway, my point was that while I showed my brother everything I was doing, and he's very mechanically inclined (works on motorcycles), after I was done with the gun he told me that while he'll be willing to remove the manual safety assembly to clean out the firing pin channel now and then (he lives and plays in the desert), there's no way he's interested in ever tearing down the frame.

If you think the CSX looks a bit complex, you ought to see the armorer manual for disassembling the Walther PPS.

 

[500swmag]

Would you know how to go about procuring one of these?

I called S&W and they said, probably not.
I watched this video, and it would more than likely need more than a new trigger.
https://youtu.be/fnyyIqjAoCU

yes, it is physically possible.

unfortunately unknown if these components will be customer sourced separately.

 

[Mongo1958]

Looks like the new CSX is beginning to catch on with the Youtube crowd.
https://youtu.be/Yycdig_rBjw

 

[Smithem']

I will post this to the other CSXe series posts that are here simply to throw in my 1.5 cents.


Went to my LGS yesterday to look at the new e series CSX. I have one of the early originals that I modified to rid it of the false reset. I could not have been more disappointed.


The first thing I did was test the trigger and counted three clicks before reset. The first one was very subtle, but I was looking for it and found it quickly. The second and third were pronounced. When I showed the LGS owner, he too was very surprised and said, "I thought they were supposed to fix that ****."


I did take my original CSX down to parts and polished everything. It is notably better than the e series gun I looked at. That saved me a good $500 or more bucks on the spot.


As I said in previous posts, manufactures are falling all over themselves to get out a small high capacity gun to keep up with the Jones' and S&W did a nice job with the CSX, but left out one of the most important parts that turn people away. That is a superb trigger.

 

[SoCalDep]

No.

Why is reset important? It’s the thing that happens between shooting a round… and then doing the thing that shoots another round. It’s necessary but ancillary and focusing on it rather than trigger press is a dogmatic grasp at marketing and outdated and illogical firearm training.

The CSX is a great pistol. The E-Series adds more. Stop focusing on reset and start learning how to shoot right.

 

[justicetyme]

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