ChuckS1
US Veteran
You guys all just have been issued a different jacket than I got. Even with the liner, it didn't keep me warm. It wasn't until I got my Graf jacket (the issue rain jacket with a liner that was made from a poncho liner) that finally worked for me. That worked great until the Goretex jackets came out. That Goretex jacket and a wool sweater was my standard cold weather combo.